ETF2L – Latest activity in “Turbine ruleset needs scrutiny” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/ Reply by beastybear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-8/?recent=303157#post=303157 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303157 Thu, 12 May 2011 21:00:47 +0200 Reply by Daleth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-8/?recent=303157#post=303152 Quoted from Si^
next weeks discussion Gravelpit C point is too damn high!
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It's really simple, add a new rule: If a team has the intel then they MUST cap it as soon as they can. If they don't they lose the map and all points go to the opponent.
]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303110 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:45:59 +0200 Reply by waebi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303108 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303108 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:36:45 +0200 Reply by Electro https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303107 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303107 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:35:57 +0200 Reply by waebi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303095 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303095 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:10:58 +0200 Reply by olive https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303094 Quoted from CanFo
This is not a problem about the map, in my opinion. Things like this can happen on ANY map. Image a team is leading by one or 2 points on granary and the time left is 5 minutes. They do not even join the midfight but build uber in yard. It will be easy to defend the second point and the last point for 5 minutes. No granary in season 10?
I don't know if any1 quoted you and told how wrong u are on this statement. but if no one has. then i really have to... The situation you're talking about is nothing alike the problem with turbine, Please for the love of god and all thats holy beautiful and sacred. Do not compare 2 gamemodes where the entire structure of everything is different. let's take your scenario. 5min left and team A is 1 point up conceding mid and holding yard instead. Yes it's a stronger hold, but by no means impossible to beat. This still have a risk in it. if they lose then that hold is the worst decision they could make. (and yes they can lose) now lets look at the turbine problem. Team A is 4 points up and have the last intel, there's 20 minutes left. they have placed the intel right outside their spawndoor, that way they can renew it intantly without risk. lets say 10 minutes have passed and Team B managed to equalise it at 4-4. now the problem is, Team B only just capped the 4th intel. but team A has the intel right outside the spawndoor. so they insta-cap it. that's 10 minutes of a round wasted. nothing Team B could do to win the round. Team A has brought themselves in a 1-0 lead, and wasted 10minutes that otherwise would have been spend for Team B trying to equalise the overall score. All COMPLETELY free of risk. I did not expect an admin to bring such a lame argument to the table. Please do take a look at your staff and see if you shouldn't cut a few lose. (if my post at any point got messy then sorry, i'm not good at keeping structure and i'm pretty annoyed by stupid statements) EDIT: and in advance, i'm not crying about the game i lost on turbine against frømand, they played well and probably would have beaten us without the trick, i just first of all really want this changed. and second of all i'm mad at the admin for saying something that idiotic.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303094 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:02:33 +0200 Reply by dr icecream https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303077 Quoted from IPZIE
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Well, if you have F7 on your team, you can't stop yourself from it]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303077 Thu, 12 May 2011 18:00:21 +0200 Reply by derippez https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303071 Quoted from herpderp
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yea i get what you're saying so just allow a team to say 'gr, restart please', then take a screen of the round, restart the cfg + set mp_timelimit equal to the time left in the round before sounds good]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303061 Thu, 12 May 2011 17:23:47 +0200 Reply by t1gr3 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303059 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303059 Thu, 12 May 2011 17:16:15 +0200 Reply by Eledorian https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303058 Quoted from jonii
[...] cuz then people would act like dicks, setting a hard limit means you'd lose 1min at most, not setting it would mean the winning team could waste more time - thus making it no different than letting the round go on
Setting a hard limit also means you can lose the round you were winning because the team you were playing against defaulted their match in a weird manner (remember, not everyone that plays in ETF2L has English as their native language, which can create confusion between teams). Would you like to lose the round you were winning because you were 5 - 30 seconds late with resetting the round? There is already a framework in place to deal with teams that act like dicks in dead game situations. Adding a rule like this doesn't really add anything. If a round is defaulted, take a screenshot of the current score, reset the round and start again. Teams can arrange this stuff on their own most of the time without issue. And it's not uncommon for teams to take a small break in between rounds (happens in Gpit aswell) to talk about strategy or to take a piss/get drinks/smoke/fap or whatever.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303058 Thu, 12 May 2011 17:12:27 +0200 Reply by sidude7 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16767/page-7/?recent=303157#post=303057 Quoted from Waebi
a team that actually does this should be considered for an UNsportsmanship award and/or receive penalty points anyway.
They have done nothing wrong there are no rules to stop them from doing it and what they are doing is perfectly legal. penalty points over the top, unsportsmanlike maybe but i'd say some teams do worse.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16767&post=303057 Thu, 12 May 2011 17:11:56 +0200