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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;The ultimate Vanilla + Medlocks Poll&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tikcus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300719</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[not the right way to do a poll, shame

if you get close to 1000 votes (~50% of players) it will be worth using this as an indication, i fear you will struggle to get 20% of the actual player base in etf2l to fill this in.

Tie a vote to the signup process for next season, this does some great things

1, you must be prepared to compete in the league to have your say, regardless of the rules set
2, Every team gets a vote
3, admins can weight votes however they see fit, once they have every teams opinion

obviously add some penalty for teams that signup, and then drop, because they don't like the rule set (a 6 month forum ban would be a good start :p )]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 13:37:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by bulletproofsmurf</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300701</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Jaskey</i>
		<blockquote>Please just make this official and fix it, tie it to etf2l accounts or something to stop people fakeing, so many have voted for vanilla allready but admins wont take notice if its not a proper system.</blockquote>

Agreed- plus getting a proper 'turnout' will be tricky if it isn't official. So your results will be completely skewed]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 12:48:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300679</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from herpderp</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Huh? When was this thrown into the world? Source plz.</blockquote>

It will happen, very sure of it. If it doesn't happen I would be surprised.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 11:41:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ghostface</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300675</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The only safe way of voting I see is either making the vote on the website and tying it to accounts with a unique steamID, even though that can still be faked, OR making the votes forum-post based. That'll take a lot to count, though.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 11:25:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Eledorian</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300674</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Hildreth</i>
		<blockquote>Well ETF2L will go Vanilla + medlocks next season anyway so it doesn't really matter. </blockquote>

Huh? When was this thrown into the world? Source plz.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 11:18:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300673</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Is the question - Do you prefer the ruleset vanilla + medlocks personally - Or do you wish for the league to adapt the Vanilla + Medlocks rule?

As i'm auqward and my opinion differs :&#62;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 11:14:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300667</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Nice work Martn.
Even though I doubt its results will 'officially' be taken into account next season, I'm sure they will still give off a general idea. After all it's a Yes or No question, not a poll with 30 questions each with 4 possible answers. A few incorrect votes won't make that big of a difference, really.

(ps. please regard this post as one posted by a player, not an admin)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 10:47:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300660</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well ETF2L will go Vanilla + medlocks next season anyway so it doesn't really matter. 

Like I said I'll play Vanilla even though I prefer unlocks. For the good of the game and this means having a united community and not read a bunch of immature, idiotic posts arguing and achieving fuck all.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 08:14:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TYRANNOSAURUS</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300651</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Against

Also anybody that considers this poll representative is gonna be ridiculed for months]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 05:09:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jacko99</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-2/?recent=300719#post=300641</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Please just make this official and fix it, tie it to etf2l accounts or something to stop people fakeing, so many have voted for vanilla allready but admins wont take notice if its not a proper system.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 03:23:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sketch</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-1/?recent=300719#post=300635</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Oxy</i>
		<blockquote>Another thread complaining about unlocks. Whoopee do.

Needless to say i didn't vote.</blockquote>

their is no complaining.

<i>Quoted from FIR</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

If you have the right to remove votes, then "unbiased" automatically becomes bullshit, because as long as you have that ability to remove votes, you can tip the scales in any favour and thus ruin its credibility.

I'm not saying you will, but other, more insensitive people will pick on the fact that you have the power to turn it in any direction by means of removing a few votes.</blockquote>

+ who cares. its not the referendum.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 02:05:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Xzar</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-1/?recent=300719#post=300623</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[useless]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 01:05:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by wpminnows</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-1/?recent=300719#post=300621</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[where's the 'vanilla + medlocks but i like gunboats' option]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 00:57:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-1/?recent=300719#post=300617</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This is kinda useless, all the people who moved to ESL probably don't give a damn about ETF2L anymore.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 00:48:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mahren</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16664/page-1/?recent=300719#post=300616</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from FIR</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

If you have the right to remove votes, then "unbiased" automatically becomes bullshit, because as long as you have that ability to remove votes, you can tip the scales in any favour and thus ruin its credibility.

I'm not saying you will, but other, more insensitive people will pick on the fact that you have the power to turn it in any direction by means of removing a few votes.</blockquote>

zing.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 00:38:49 +0200</pubDate>
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