ETF2L – Latest activity in “Maps and Unlocks OPEN Survey” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/ Reply by Lapochka https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280980 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280980 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:57:53 +0100 Reply by ouch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280954 Quoted from Angel
[...] There are no ctf_turbine sources in the Source SDK. So we can't modify it and 2C is not about ctf_turbine.
there should be 2D extra for turbine. I don't get your point.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280954 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:17:19 +0100 Reply by Lapochka https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280946 Quoted from Crasp
(2)C. Source SDK. Your Subscription(s) may contain access to the Valve software development kit (the "SDK") for the computer game engine used in Half-Life 2 and other compatible Valve products (the "Source Engine"). You may use, reproduce and modify the SDK on a non-commercial basis
There are no ctf_turbine sources in the Source SDK. So we can't modify it and 2C is not about ctf_turbine.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280946 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:05:12 +0100 Reply by Crasp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280942 Quoted from Angel
[...] Decompile and modify? Proof link, please. Read http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/englishSteam Subscriber Agreement[/url] E. Restrictions. Except as otherwise permitted under Section 2(C) with regard to the SDK, you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any proprietary notices or labels from the Software or any software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of Valve. Is Source SDK include ctf_turbine in source .MAP format? Answer is NO. So we've a piracy version as reverse engineering product.
(2)C. Source SDK. Your Subscription(s) may contain access to the Valve software development kit (the "SDK") for the computer game engine used in Half-Life 2 and other compatible Valve products (the "Source Engine"). You may use, reproduce and modify the SDK on a non-commercial basis solely to develop a modified game (a "Mod") for Half-Life 2 or other Valve products compatible with and using the Source Engine. You may reproduce and distribute the Mod in object code form, solely to licensed end users of Half-Life 2 or other compatible Valve products, provided that the Mod is made publicly available and distributed without charge on a non-commercial basis If you would like to use the Source SDK or a Mod for a commercial purpose or activity, please contact Valve at sourceengine@valvesoftware.com.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280942 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:59:10 +0100 Reply by AnAkIn_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280938 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280938 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:47:57 +0100 Reply by Cloud https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280936 Quoted from Angel
[...] Is Source SDK include ctf_turbine in source .MAP format? Answer is NO. So we've a piracy version as reverse engineering product.
The fuck is your problem with someone editing a map? Everyone on the anti map-suppression bandwagon now! In fact I seem to recall various other maps which are edited versions of ones without decompiled versions in the SDK, and as is said above, Valve aint gonna go on a witch-hunt because you edited a map, all it means is it probably won't ever become official. Sounds to me like someone just doesn't like turbine pro!]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280936 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:44:52 +0100 Reply by AnAkIn_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280935 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280935 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:42:56 +0100 Reply by WARHURYEAH https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280934 Get 'em, boyos! June 15, 2009 - Dave Riller ...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280934 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:39:07 +0100 Reply by Arnold https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280933 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280933 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:38:48 +0100 Reply by Lapochka https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280932 Quoted from Waster
ctf_turbine is in there.
TF2 Official Blog - where?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280932 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:33:58 +0100 Reply by Waster https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280929 here :D]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280929 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:26:26 +0100 Reply by Arnold https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280928 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280928 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:24:57 +0100 Reply by Lapochka https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280926 Quoted from RaCio
I'm pretty sure valve has no problem with editing a map for use in the same game.
I'm not sure that they got the prior consent, in writing, of Valve. Therefore, the author is hiding now. :) Quoted from Koeitje
The SDK includes decompiled versions of map like badlands and gravelpit afaik. Turbine might also be in there.
The SDK includes decompiled versions of: - arena_lumberyard - arena_ravine - cp_badlands - cp_dustbowl - cp_granary - cp_gravelpit - ctf_2fort - pl_badwater - pl_goldrush - tc_hydro Did you see ctf_turbine in this list? No. It's all about moral aspects of ctf_turbine_pro author.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280926 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:19:02 +0100 Reply by Arnold https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280921 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280921 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:13:13 +0100 Reply by waebi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15725/page-15/?recent=280980#post=280920 Quoted from Koeitje
The SDK includes decompiled versions of map like badlands and gravelpit afaik. Turbine might also be in there.
was gonna say just that - if it's there, then there would be no problem with it at all, right?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=15725&post=280920 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:11:16 +0100