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    	    <title>Reply by vlad_drac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270856</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply that you are at least reviewing the process crasp, even if my questions weren't answered then the implied answer was "yeah, it's not good enough, we're looking at it".

May i kindly point out that if it wasn't for swarlz, randaa and the rest of the troll brigade, this thread would have been 1 page long and the answer would have been at the bottom of the page.  If you want to know why these forums are a constant flame barrage and constantly being locked, just take one good look at the thread.

Guy asks question politely
3 people say "DUDE WHY DID YOU POST THIS LOL YOU CAN GET ANSWERS OTHER WAYS AND THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE LOL"
Guy posts defending the OP
3 trolls come back with more nonsense and before you know it, people are dissecting each other's posts sentence by sentence for spelling and grammar so that they can disprove......nothing!!?

You people gave the admins every bit of ammunition they needed to lock this uncomfortable (for their reputation) thread and i credit them for not doing so.

Now that i've got a decent answer/reply, i'll give you a few tips;
Firstly, randaa, irc is not the be all and end all of communication.  I don't have irc, i don't like irc, i like forums.  Forums in general are a place for discussion, internet forums specifically are too.  The word permeates through history and it's always to do with discussion, it's no coincidence that we called it a forum.

Secondly, other people, if you believe that this topic HAS been covered before, link me to the previous post in which my questions were asked and i will apologise and bump that thread instead.  Simply sticking your nose in and saying "THIS HAS BEEN COVERED LOL I'M JUST TRYING TO STOP THE FORUMS BEING SPAMMED" is not doing anyone a public service, it is simply derailment.  A public service would be what i described.  You are simply worsening the environment you profess to be trying to protect.

Lastly, don't worry randaa et al, i know you're annoyed by this post, don't mad, you been trolled good, i'm an old pro at this trolling game

(you can lock it now btw, thanks for allowing me an answer)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:40:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mr Mugabe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270853</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Should have locked it right away and forum ban the thread starter.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:33:05 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270842</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Please stay at the topic. If the thread jumps the tracks, we will lock it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:15:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by JudeRomero</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270834</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[DRIBBLE DRIBBLE DRIBBLE]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:03:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270827</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from franco</i>
		<blockquote>swarlz is nearing demourges level of idiocy, impressive</blockquote>
I'm taking that as a personal attack on me as person. CU@LAN]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:51:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270826</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from trams</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

He would realize that VAC doesnt work?</blockquote>

Good point brah, just not exactly what I was referring to :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:51:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tramsig</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from demsii</i>
		<blockquote>

 If I were a valve employee and I would see this kind of bs I would seriously wonder what would be wrong with this league with all these frequent shitstorms.

</blockquote>

He would realize that VAC doesnt work?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:49:53 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-4/?recent=270856#post=270823</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[=D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:48:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ghostface</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270822</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[So Swarlz is an idiot because people just keep insisting on the exact same thing that was discussed in another 3 locked threads?

What the fuck is wrong with you people?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:46:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by franco</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270821</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[swarlz is nearing demourges level of idiocy, impressive]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:43:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270820</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Abra</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
poor demsii buthurt)</blockquote>

Quite yes .. 'bout what exactly? :3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Exeandrey</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270812</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from demsii</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

A good mature comeback bro, deffo cut out for adminwork. :) r u 12?</blockquote>
poor demsii buthurt)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:38:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270809</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from compton</i>
		<blockquote>Oh hi didn't know you still hold grudge from the other thread :) I'm sorry for hurting your feelings</blockquote>

A good mature comeback bro, deffo cut out for adminwork. :) r u 12?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:18:21 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by str8outtaCompton</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270807</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Oh hi didn't know you still hold grudge from the other thread :) I'm sorry for hurting your feelings]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:16:11 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-15410/page-3/?recent=270856#post=270806</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Crasp</i>
		<blockquote>We are discussing the issues raised about the Anti-Cheat process. We don't want to rush any decision we make and surprisingly enough we can't work on it 24/7, so this will take longer than some people would like. 

You're welcome to discuss amongst yourselves, we will keep an eye on that and if something useful arises we will include it in our own discussions. We may not answer direct questions on the forums but that doesn't mean we haven't covered them privately.

After that, if we feel we need to announce anything we will do so.</blockquote>

Question!

Is compton not part of these sessions or does he just like to publicly scorch his fellow colleagues in front of the masses?


		<blockquote>Learn to scan. Do not click on uninteresting links. Basic skills for any internet user. But I’m sure you know that already, as you’re just trying to create an argument.</blockquote>

I'm sure he has mastered the skill over time, doesn't mean it should be necessary for a topic that has been closed twice now.


		<blockquote>Is this a fact? Says who? I think that’s completely subjective and perhaps just a projected fear exactly like “people think TF2 is just a cartoon game”, which I hear much more from TF2 players than anyone else.</blockquote>

You have the opinion that fighting amongst ourselves and questioning every step the admin team takes, wether it be AC or not is good for etf2l's image? If I were a valve employee and I would see this kind of bs I would seriously wonder what would be wrong with this league with all these frequent shitstorms.


		<blockquote>Who’s flaming here except you?

Without your meta-talk, this thread would be about two to four posts long, perhaps buried. But now it gets bumped because you are making claims that derail the thread. So you want this thread to die, but you won’t let it happen?

Now say you’re not trolling.</blockquote>

Once again you seem to take things for what they are not. He is speaking out that this has been discussed several times now and wondering if it is really needed to dwell on the topic for a third time, that does not make it a flame or a troll, but these will eventually come out to play aswell, especially on topics like these.

As I've said before in the other topic, it's unbelievable you're an admin for the biggest league in europe.

As for the questions vlad asked he is completely right to ask them of course, they should've been answered in the other thread really though. But I'm curious what this statement is gonna be from the admin team, if at all :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:11:28 +0100</pubDate>
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