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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Team Drops&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tikcus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-9/?recent=259820#post=259820</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Please stop replacing teams that drop in the first few weeks, yes it makes the league look better but it is annoying to have to replay games after you have already played/won them

a few seasons ago we had to play 11 matches as both our week 1 and 2 opponents folded after we beat them, both were replaced but it added to our match load at the time ( I think we we competing in 3 leagues at the same time), making it even harder to schedule in the fixtures]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:54:21 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by iharhajster</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-9/?recent=259820#post=259810</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[only - of team dropping is point deletion. like: "we did hard against those to win the match and it all comes to nothing".

damn droppers! punish them (whole team/all players) with one season suspension.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:38:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259806</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[:D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:26:56 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259802</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Serves you right for trusting germans]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:20:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259797</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Like those ESL medals we are never going to see?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:16:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259791</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Tapley ❤</i>
		<blockquote>Lets get valve to hand out "ETF2L Season 10 Completed" meadals and you'd be surprised at how many more teams would wait to fold till the end of the season ;).</blockquote>

Not to mention the teams that would join only for the medal.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:04:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259790</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Its counter productive to punish teams who fold as it'll just discourage people further and also theres too many reasons as to why a team folds and who the punishment effects. 

Lets get valve to hand out "ETF2L Season 10 Completed" meadals and you'd be surprised at how many more teams would wait to fold till the end of the season ;).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:00:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CommanderX</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259736</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I didn't mean to fold lz.green! soz for own]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:35:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mordi </title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=259733</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Stay with ur team or die!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:14:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Martndemus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=257363</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This http://etf2l.org/teams/7824/ team, that is in our division, has 4 games left unplayed.
If this team would finish the remainder of their games with 6-0 they would end on the #1 spot in our division (6L). Another team http://etf2l.org/teams/11617/ in our division would also get the #1 spot if they finish all games with 6-0.

Here comes the sad part. The first team made no effort in planning any matches the past few weeks, none of those four teams can get in contact with them. That second team has to play and win against them, if they want to finish #1 spot. If we just get 3 points in our last game tonight, which we will, no team can finish ahead of us unless they play and win against that inactive team. Kind of unfair huh? This should be punished instead of teams dropping early in the season.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:47:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=256792</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[didnt we like have at least 3 such threads already?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:45:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lolage</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=256790</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[good read]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:43:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=256783</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[lol why is this thread still going]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:29:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by freshmeatt</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=256777</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Eight pages, Jesus Christ.

No desire to troll, but really, get over it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:14:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TANC_Warmaster</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-14851/page-8/?recent=259820#post=256760</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hi, I play this game for fun and don't want to be punished because the lower divs are serious business.


But really, on average about 20% of the teams drop, this means more than 80% of the games got played.

1) This also means that a team, on average, only plays about 1 or 2 officials less.
2) Even more, teams that drop don't influence the final standings of the group at all, except in the rare case in which the team dropped after completing 75% of its games (quite unlikely)

=&#62; I don't get why so many people get annoyed by this. The impact of the dropped teams on them is all in all pretty small. In fact, it's only annoying for the players of the dropped teams themselves. They didn't have the season they were hoping to get.

tl;dr Play this game for fun and don't be too hard on your fellow tf2 players!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:17:46 +0100</pubDate>
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