Every1 crying about the heavy now... Got problems with that fatso,don't forget TEAM WORK (the game is based on that) take a sniper,aiming for a fat big bald head is not so tough is it? not full charged headshot + some spam rockets or stickiez and here u go... Every new/old unlockable has its big - over the competevite game Sandman - -hp so every direct rocket = dead (or stickie/pipe) TDH - a good scout jumping around will cause some trouble to you because of small splash damage,also,avoid jumping if u notice that enemy has TDH. There's a lot of ways to beat those weps,just ppl need to think about it more for a moment. (test should be more awesome)

"Weapon balance thread". If the majority of players really wants a discusision about weapons then there should be a "Balance forum". with serveral "weapon threads". Otherwise the overview will just be lost and the discussion will get more and more complicated.

*edit 3* The people crying for milk to be banned do you realise how it actually works?, he needs to inflict damage to regenerate his health, it doesn't get generated for free, the milk does no additional damage to the person coated with it

[...] Imo they make heavy a core class at mid points since they now move at the speed of a medic (I think). That means no more jumping soldiers at mid and transfers even more control to the demo who will likely be the only class who can deal with them at mid range. As soon as one of them dies it'll be down to the other team to just walk onto the point. As soon as one team runs 2 heavies it'll be hard to do anything but the same I think. It'll increase the use of spies and snipers I guess but also makes pyros a lot less worthwhile. Heavies were meant to be slow, they should stay that way. With their current spinup/down buff they are already viable as we've seen with teams like O6 and seeing 2 heavies as core will just force teams to have to push with uber. Convince me otherwise.

The people crying for milk to be banned do you realise how it actually works?, he needs to inflict damage to regenerate his health, it doesn't get generated for free, the milk does no additional damage to the person coated with it

I think there should be another unlock test cup, but only testing a select few at a time, hopefully, div1 teams will signup and show us why certain unlocks are OP.