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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Ping thoughts&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-2/?recent=208926#post=208926</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ok :) thats settled then. Thank you.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:00:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Leftism</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-2/?recent=208926#post=208910</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Indeed.

This is the EUROPEAN TF2 League and all American teams that entered should've noted this when they signed up. As much as I'd welcome our friends from across the pond to participate in this tournament, European servers must be used for any game with a European team, regardless of how bad your ping is -- I believe a sentence from the original announcement post for this tournament went along a similar line too.

All in all, the non-European teams know perfectly well the "risks" involved when signing up for this tournament and by entering it agreed to adhere to the conditions put forward by the ETF2L.

/my2pence]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:17:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208750</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[When in doubt, a european server has to be used.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:32:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208745</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Dealing with euro ping since 09'.

If you are East, it's not that hard to adapt uk/nl servers. I suggest to better play on a uk server, as it's the best choice. On the other side, if you want to play on an US server, just choose New York/Chicago.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:27:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by flix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208656</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from agron</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Or maybe the american teams will just have to deal with the ping. :)</blockquote>

+1]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:45:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208655</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[thats a bit harsh isn't it? :) but yes, i can see it being an issue, since the match wouldn't be fair for either of the teams.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:44:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Agron</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208652</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Ok :) Thats good to hear. Just a little worried about the highlander cup. Maybe they will split them up by country, so they avoid ping issues.</blockquote>

Or maybe the american teams will just have to deal with the ping. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:40:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208639</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ok :) Thats good to hear. Just a little worried about the highlander cup. Maybe they will split them up by country, so they avoid ping issues.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:30:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Relentless</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208633</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Well wouldn't it be an idea to create an American league, european league and such? :) If we play with 100+ ping it kinda ruins the experience.</blockquote>

There are numerous American leagues, CEVO being the most important one. Matches between American and European teams rarely happen.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:23:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dr icecream</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208610</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Lol

Ok guys, seriously now.

My opinion on excessive ping:

I think there should be either a solution for the pings (maybe ETF2L hosted servers that aren't located in europe itself, but just outside it, so the pings of the american players are lowered from 130 - 100 to 80 maybe, same for people in the siberian part of Russia, because it really really annoys me at times how easy they get headshots when going sniper with their ping while they are practically untouchable), or maybe make subdivisions, so the ping differences there aren't that big.

If that's not possible, I think it'll either be "suck it up" or getting rid of the players. The second option wouldn't be fair though, since everyone deserves a chance to play.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:47:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208609</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think the Americans have there own leagues already to be honest.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:46:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12044/page-1/?recent=208926#post=208596</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well wouldn't it be an idea to create an American league, european league and such? :) If we play with 100+ ping it kinda ruins the experience.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:36:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Relentless</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Hello Guys.

I'm new to competitive TF2, and i signed up for the highlander tournament.

I was wondering what would happen if a team from USA got drawn against a team from europe for example? The ping is bound to be messed up for someone somehow, and it will be unplayable. What do one do if they wind up in a situation like that?</blockquote>

If they're from further west, play on a NY server. Equally shit pings for everyone.

If they're from the east coast, determine server by lot.

That's how I'd handle it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:24:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Noeandee</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>What do one do if they wind up in a situation like that?</blockquote>

It depends. If they are hot female tf2 players, exchange numbers.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:21:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by harlzman</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from dotfloat™</i>
		<blockquote>Default win for the Europeans, obviously.</blockquote>This.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:18:11 +0200</pubDate>
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