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    	    <title>Reply by Eledorian</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188541</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Stew</i>
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Use like learning maybe ? U can learn from div1 demos, u cant learn from div6 demos. Get the difference ?</blockquote>

Yes I understand the difference, but how much usefull strategy can a Div 6 player pick up from a Div 1 demo. Considering the gap between coördination, teamwork and gamesense from Div 1 to Div 6.

Strategies that work for Div 1 teams won't always work for a Div 6 team.

That said you could still learn rollout and basic map gameplay from watching a Div 6 demo, so it's not like you get absolutely nothing out of it. 

Anyway, this arguement is pointless. Yes a Div 1 demo would be very usefull, much more so than my shitty PoV demo from our practice last night when I was high as balls and unfocused. You won't read me challenge that at all.

 I was just trying to help OP, I'm quite convinced of the fact that anyone above our divison has no use for my PoV demo at all, just ask lolage :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:20:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by iMp-Silverfox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188514</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from herpderp</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

No offense taken, however considering that OP is a div 6 player, how much use do you think he has for ESEA Div 1 demo's :P?</blockquote>

Use like learning maybe ? U can learn from div1 demos, u cant learn from div6 demos. Get the difference ?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:42:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by daithi1</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188512</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Jesus why do you need to copy people just go on the map turn on sv_cheats and jump around for 20 mins. Granted a top level demo will help but seriously.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188510</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from octochris</i>
		<blockquote>If there was no skill gap there would be no need for divisions, but there is, and that skill gap makes such demos of not much use to people in divisions where the teams are much more organised</blockquote>

Absolutely, but 1. I see no reason to be such a dick about it (like Stew is. No insult intended mate &#60;3), and 2. watching a rollout done by a div6 team will still give you the general idea. You can then use your div1-ness to figure out w/e there is you div1 kids figure out when figuring things out. Yeah.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:40:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Eledorian</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188483</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from droso</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

No offense but what's the point of watching demos from a div 6 player?
I want ESEA-invite level demos please. :(</blockquote>

No offense taken, however considering that OP is a div 6 player, how much use do you think he has for ESEA Div 1 demo's :P?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:54:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gr33nArrow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188481</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[quite enjoyed playing this last night with DA]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:52:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vague</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188471</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from WARHURYEAH</i>
		<blockquote>coldfront rollout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WmOo3j1vM</blockquote>
to slow, i'm faster.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:46:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188466</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

dont we all just love the tf2 community &#60;3</blockquote>

Sort of agree with him to be honest, it would be better for clans to devise their own tactics than to take them from teams from the lowest division...

If there was no skill gap there would be no need for divisions, but there is, and that skill gap makes such demos of not much use to people in divisions where the teams are much more organised.

d6 teams play a lot differently to teams in other divisions, and it's important to remember that when watching demos.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:35:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188448</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Stew</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

With the teamplay and gamesense of a squirrel ? Sry but if that's the case i prefer not watching any demos then :D

No insult intended.</blockquote>

dont we all just love the tf2 community &#60;3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:58:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by iMp-Silverfox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188295</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Buffalo Bill</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

When there's no other demos available, take what you can get.</blockquote>

With the teamplay and gamesense of a squirrel ? Sry but if that's the case i prefer not watching any demos then :D

No insult intended.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:27:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Xzar</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188294</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[this map is so utter shit, makes Gorge look small]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:25:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WARHURYEAH</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188288</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[coldfront rollout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WmOo3j1vM]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:11:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CrazyRequiem</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-2/?recent=188541#post=188285</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[thank kuma for the vid]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:05:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Buffalo Bill</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-1/?recent=188541#post=188284</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from droso</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

No offense but what's the point of watching demos from a div 6 player?
</blockquote>

When there's no other demos available, take what you can get.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:00:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kuma1</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-10548/page-1/?recent=188541#post=188277</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ghent</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Currently retooling this page. Check back soon.</blockquote>

try this link directly. http://www.tgbf.tv/read.php?item=289
click on the bit below Watch Vods

blight.own vs neXus gaming]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:39:02 +0200</pubDate>
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