ETF2L – Latest activity in “rates, cl_interp, interp_ratio....” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/ Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176096 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176096 Mon, 10 May 2010 01:55:51 +0200 Reply by Cloud https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176095 Quoted from octochris
[...] check net_graph, you will not be getting 100 updates a second.
Yeah, but in practice that means nothing, because the game also knows you're not getting that 100 updates a second, especially with the etf2l cfg limiting updaterate and such, so it evens out with the games calculations in the end. Unless you have some massively whacked out setting of course]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176095 Mon, 10 May 2010 01:48:01 +0200 Reply by Dr. Chris https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176094 Quoted from AnimaL
once ur interp is orange ur rates are too high/update rate too low
er, no, orange is fine, it just means that you are requesting the raw (max) number of packets being generated by the server. yellow and red are the problem colours, orange is just a warning that you need every update. Quoted from AnimaL
even if you do send out 30 useless packs per s, or update ur game 100frames per sec, whats wrong in that? interp is still faster isnt it
no... the interpolation relies on new packets with new data to 'guess' (not technically correct but meh) the data between updates.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176094 Mon, 10 May 2010 01:47:05 +0200 Reply by Cloud https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176093 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176093 Mon, 10 May 2010 01:46:32 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176089 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176089 Mon, 10 May 2010 01:18:52 +0200 Reply by Dr. Chris https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176081 Quoted from AnimaL
what exactly does it fuck up... im stupid and ive played on updaterate 100/interp 0.0201 whole life as far as i know, if updaterate is <100 it affects interp once you use it below 0.03
check net_graph, you will not be getting 100 updates a second.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176081 Mon, 10 May 2010 00:55:56 +0200 Reply by Cloud https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176056 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176056 Sun, 09 May 2010 23:53:05 +0200 Reply by AnAkIn_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-7/?recent=176096#post=176045 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176045 Sun, 09 May 2010 23:35:13 +0200 Reply by Fox https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=176044 Quoted from AnAkkk
[...] [...] It looks like you both didn't understand my post. sv_maxupdaterate can be set to any values. Some stupid server admins who don't know that the server tickrate is 66 set sv_maxupdaterate to 100, and then some stupid players set cl_updaterate to 100 and cl_interp to 0.01. This cause them to receive 66 updates/s (because server tickrate is 66) but the interpolation time will be 10 ms, which will fuck up everything since it's too low for the update rate.
I would like to actually test that, but I don't have a server which sv_maxupdaterate i can screw up. My clans war server runs at sv_maxupdaterate 66, and when I used cl_interp 0.01 for testing purposes, it was limited to 0.0152 like I have said before. If you have a server with which you can screw around, then I would like to test that there. Otherwise i will not believe you. :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176044 Sun, 09 May 2010 23:31:42 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=176032 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176032 Sun, 09 May 2010 22:21:16 +0200 Reply by AnAkIn_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=176029 Quoted from Fox
[...] No you can't. 66 is maximum for TF2 (not for CSS though). And if sv_maxupdaterate is lower than 66, you get higher values obviously.
Quoted from octochris
[...] That's not correct, if cl_updaterate is set at 66 and cl_interp_ratio is set at 1 then 0.0152 is correct (that's roughly 1/66) -- since less updates would mean you need a higher interp, and a higher interp ratio would also mean you need a higher interp ratio, and 66 is the maximum updaterate that will have an effect in TF2, there is no situation in which you should use a value lower than 0.0151515152.
It looks like you both didn't understand my post. sv_maxupdaterate can be set to any values. Some stupid server admins who don't know that the server tickrate is 66 set sv_maxupdaterate to 100, and then some stupid players set cl_updaterate to 100 and cl_interp to 0.01. This cause them to receive 66 updates/s (because server tickrate is 66) but the interpolation time will be 10 ms, which will fuck up everything since it's too low for the update rate.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176029 Sun, 09 May 2010 21:58:59 +0200 Reply by Dr. Chris https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=176005 Quoted from AnimaL
why smooth 1?
It's something I've fiddled around with and have got feedback on, it can be very helpful against laggy opponents, and at other times is not noticeable.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176005 Sun, 09 May 2010 20:30:43 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=176004 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=176004 Sun, 09 May 2010 20:25:25 +0200 Reply by Dr. Chris https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=175995 Quoted from Asskicker
Hi, I'm using Chris' TF2 config and I'm having stuttering problems. (I did also before using Chris' TF2 config.) These are the settings I currently use: // Misc cl_predict "1" cl_predictweapons "1" cl_showfps "1" // Show unsmoothed FPS meter cl_showpluginmessages "0" fps_max "60" // Limited simply to keep GPU temps down r_unloadlightmaps "1" // Net cl_cmdrate "60" // +1 on max of 66 to account for discrepancy between server/client cl_interp "0.01" cl_interp_ratio "1" cl_interp_threadmodeticks "0" cl_lagcompensation "1" cl_pred_optimize "2" cl_smooth "0" cl_smoothtime "0.01" // Failsafe for cl_smooth forcing cl_updaterate "60" // +1 on max of 66 to account for discrepancy between server/client rate "100000" // Never going to use this much bandwidth, just relieves any feasible cap And I'm getting this negraph with it: http://localhostr.com/files/393b25/netgraph.jpg http://localhostr.com/files/6f4110/netgraph2.jpg Game also isn't running very smoothly, has stuttering and stuff. Also, I mainly play Soldier, not sure if any of the commands in Chris' TF Config have an effect on rockets :P
You must have a very old version of my config, it has had the following netsettings for a while now: // Net cl_cmdrate "67" // +1 on max of 66 to account for discrepancy between server/client cl_interp "0.0152" cl_interp_ratio "1" cl_interp_threadmodeticks "0" cl_lagcompensation "1" cl_pred_optimize "2" cl_smooth "1" cl_smoothtime "0.05" cl_updaterate "67" // +1 on max of 66 to account for discrepancy between server/client rate "100000" // Never going to use this much bandwidth, just relieves any feasible cap I don't believe my configs have ever had the cmdrate set to 60 D:]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=175995 Sun, 09 May 2010 19:52:02 +0200 Reply by Dr. Chris https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-954/page-6/?recent=176096#post=175994 Quoted from AnAkkk
[...] If sv_maxupdaterate is not set to 66, you can go lower than 0.0152, but since you'll still receive 66 updates/s, this'll cause registry problems.
That's not correct, if cl_updaterate is set at 66 and cl_interp_ratio is set at 1 then 0.0152 is correct (that's roughly 1/66) -- since less updates would mean you need a higher interp, and a higher interp ratio would also mean you need a higher interp ratio, and 66 is the maximum updaterate that will have an effect in TF2, there is no situation in which you should use a value lower than 0.0151515152.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=954&post=175994 Sun, 09 May 2010 19:41:07 +0200