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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;America vs. Europe?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by dmg.steel</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Use a LAN.

And if that don't work? 

Use moar LAN.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:04:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Just get the american teams to play at I39 and its all done...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:57:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by pRize</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Europe cuz they have denmark &#60;3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:24:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by str8outtaCompton</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-7770/page-4/?recent=124711#post=123674</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Esea.net a American league that is going to have lan finals this season. Maybe next season some European teams can get in invite, and with a larger prize pot, make the lan so we could settle this once and for all. That is assuming you can get to the playoffs by playing at horrible times and having horrible pings. :) Check out the invite teams here http://www.esea.net/index.php?s=league&#38;d=standings&#38;division_id=1365 And if you want, open has mostly the stronger (mid to mid/high) teams in the US because lower teams just join free leagues instead, and sign ups are still open.</blockquote>

you could probably invite the top 4 teams from the euro scene instead of making them play at a huge disadvantage</blockquote>

americans will get butthurt if european teams get in without playing]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:17:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ijantis</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Esea.net a American league that is going to have lan finals this season. Maybe next season some European teams can get in invite, and with a larger prize pot, make the lan so we could settle this once and for all. That is assuming you can get to the playoffs by playing at horrible times and having horrible pings. :) Check out the invite teams here http://www.esea.net/index.php?s=league&#38;d=standings&#38;division_id=1365 And if you want, open has mostly the stronger (mid to mid/high) teams in the US because lower teams just join free leagues instead, and sign ups are still open.</blockquote>

you could probably invite the top 4 teams from the euro scene instead of making them play at a huge disadvantage]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:11:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Traget</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Esea.net a American league that is going to have lan finals this season. Maybe next season some European teams can get in invite, and with a larger prize pot, make the lan so we could settle this once and for all. That is assuming you can get to the playoffs by playing at horrible times and having horrible pings. :) Check out the invite teams here http://www.esea.net/index.php?s=league&#38;d=standings&#38;division_id=1365 And if you want, open has mostly the stronger (mid to mid/high) teams in the US because lower teams just join free leagues instead, and sign ups are still open.</blockquote>

if you pass the pings and timzones all you need to pay for the expensive tickets)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:10:46 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by hyku</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Esea.net a American league that is going to have lan finals this season. Maybe next season some European teams can get in invite, and with a larger prize pot, make the lan so we could settle this once and for all. That is assuming you can get to the playoffs by playing at horrible times and having horrible pings. :) Check out the invite teams here http://www.esea.net/index.php?s=league&#38;d=standings&#38;division_id=1365 And if you want, open has mostly the stronger (mid to mid/high) teams in the US because lower teams just join free leagues instead, and sign ups are still open.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:05:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by seggz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-7770/page-4/?recent=124711#post=123634</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Well even if neither of the teams will attend a LAN im sure that in a year or two with the upgrading internet the match will be very much playble with decent pings for both sides.</blockquote>
the point is that it's not physically possible (afaik at least, those superconductivity thingies might change that a bit, but the costs are WAY too high) to get much lower pings... the packet has to be routed through certain points, and they all add some ms on top of it.
you seem to confuse "upgrading internet" (meaning speed for you) with "better connections", meaning faster routing.
So yes, LAN would be nice.</blockquote>
Yeah. my bad. will who knows mabey somone would like to sponser such a LAN one day with the support and pressure from top teams.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:26:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Well even if neither of the teams will attend a LAN im sure that in a year or two with the upgrading internet the match will be very much playble with decent pings for both sides.</blockquote>
the point is that it's not physically possible (afaik at least, those superconductivity thingies might change that a bit, but the costs are WAY too high) to get much lower pings... the packet has to be routed through certain points, and they all add some ms on top of it.
you seem to confuse "upgrading internet" (meaning speed for you) with "better connections", meaning faster routing.
So yes, LAN would be nice.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:55:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fJack</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Dignitas Vs. Loaded/EG? Too close to call.

I think NA would win on LAN</blockquote>

Last spring we played Loaded in cevo playoffs, lost 5-4 on badlands: i like to think that on equal grounds (we played 3-4am, very tiring. And we had the 150-200 ping.) we would have won :)

Oh well, a big enough lan to make it worthwhile for the yanks to come here (or vice versa) might still happen...*cough* :(</blockquote>
we can hope :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:36:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> the match will be very much playble with decent pings for both sides.</blockquote>

'I'd buy that for a dollar!']]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:30:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by seggz</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Well even if neither of the teams will attend a LAN im sure that in a year or two with the upgrading internet the match will be very much playble with decent pings for both sides.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:28:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Agron</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[- double -]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:06:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Agron</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Dignitas Vs. Loaded/EG? Too close to call.

I think NA would win on LAN</blockquote>

Last spring we played Loaded in cevo playoffs, lost 5-4 on badlands: i like to think that on equal grounds (we played 3-4am, very tiring. And we had the 150-200 ping.) we would have won :)

Oh well, a big enough lan to make it worthwhile for the yanks to come here (or vice versa) might still happen...*cough* :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:06:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Dignitas Vs. Loaded/EG? Too close to call.</blockquote>

Would be a good match to watch for sure, UK server would be almost neutral I'd imagine depending on how close the yanks are to the east coast.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:23:45 +0100</pubDate>
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