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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Doing something about the idler punishment&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by gryzor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-8/?recent=92538#post=92538</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think we had enough of this.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:41:04 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by oblivion</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-8/?recent=92538#post=92537</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>So basically, to show valve you don't like what they've done (which is perfectly fine, considering it's THEIR game) you're going to be a dick to all the people who did nothing wrong. If anything the idlers should be the ones not getting healed/extinguished, as they were the ones who caused this all in the first place.</blockquote>

Ooops, you forgot the part when we each individually payed for it...

The part i don't like is when i lost weapons so i now don't have those unlocks- because i deleted the duplicates gained whilst playing or from achievements but kept the idleing weapons.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:37:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92531</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6349/cpbadlands0037.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9370/cpbadlands0024.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9774/cpbadlands0029.jpg

hi..</blockquote>

wow, are u playing on gameboy or something? :D</blockquote>

Even worse, a Packard Bell. :S]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:30:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by OpT1mUs</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92525</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6349/cpbadlands0037.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9370/cpbadlands0024.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9774/cpbadlands0029.jpg

hi..</blockquote>

wow, are u playing on gameboy or something? :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:04:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ErrorOperator</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92517</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6349/cpbadlands0037.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9370/cpbadlands0024.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9774/cpbadlands0029.jpg

hi..</blockquote>

go lick a willy!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:26:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Relentless</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92511</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Nightbox, your are now officially the most retarded person on this forum.</blockquote>

And it took you so long to figure out?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:59:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SEB</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92507</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6349/cpbadlands0037.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9370/cpbadlands0024.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9774/cpbadlands0029.jpg

hi..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:52:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by xtala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92506</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Nightbox, your are now officially the most retarded person on this forum.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:51:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nightbox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92499</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7850/1251991763353.png


Thats why valve is shit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:23:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Imperia</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92497</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[As a medic, I really hope they do give my blutsauger back tomorrow.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:16:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Val</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92468</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well, it hardely matters now anyway. I suppose i'd have liked some warning over this. Good to hear they're giving achivement items back. I want my flaregun back.

I suppose it was cheating the system, yes. I'd argue that the system is silly but that won't get me anywhere.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:13:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gryzor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92467</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>They should have better work for another class updates, fix bugs etc, insteed of spending huge amount of hours on deleting items from idlers and giving hats to rest. ;o</blockquote>

Because obviously, that would take days of coding...</blockquote>
Knowing a bit about how this works, the coding probably takes 3 hours, while the project-instance itself takes 3 weeks with everyone involved, adding up to 3 months in man-hours until everything is done for some simple shit like this.

If you think about it, the "idle program" showed up on steamforums a long time ago, so I'm confident I'm not that far off.

Now, all these people involved probably could've been assigned to more fruitful tasks. Valve most likely adopts something between a government-instance (from which I have professional experience from) and "home-hacking"-projects (from which I also have experience from).

3-6 weeks response-time is not all that bad in a project like TF2. Lenient bastards.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:11:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by xtala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92466</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>They should have better work for another class updates, fix bugs etc, insteed of spending huge amount of hours on deleting items from idlers and giving hats to rest. ;o</blockquote>

Because obviously, that would take days of coding...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:05:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Extremer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92462</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks for ignoring the performance issues just to punish idlers Valve! Oh and thanks for even more unnecessary particle effects. Also, it's nice of you to give VAC banned accounts halos too.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:48:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kop</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5368/page-7/?recent=92538#post=92460</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[my halo rocks]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:40:29 +0200</pubDate>
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