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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Soldier&#039;s Rocketjump post Classless patch.&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ka0s</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-9/?recent=86924#post=86924</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[FORCE J8P IS GAY IMDURJAX .,DS.KA LL OOOLO
FORCE JKUMP IS GAY IT SHOULD BE FORBIDDEN OMG LOLO BAN]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:59:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-9/?recent=86924#post=86920</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Meh, its my opinion its balanced now, especially with FaN limit 1. Yeah the scout can jump to some nice places, but he's gonna be on his own so he shouldn't be that big of a threat.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:52:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kolox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86916</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I heard all this before with the old FaN, scouts defending it despite it being clearly over powered.</blockquote>

Get your ears checked, pretty much no one (at least higher div scouts) defended the old fan.</blockquote>

iirc there were <b>a lot</b> of people defending the old fan]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:46:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sturmis</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I heard all this before with the old FaN, scouts defending it despite it being clearly over powered.</blockquote>

Get your ears checked, pretty much no one (at least higher div scouts) defended the old fan.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:35:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by zeKe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86898</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Remains to be seen, the weapon is absolutely lethal once you get behind the enemy, and the movement ability now means getting behind has become alot easier.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:18:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by RaCio</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86886</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Not really a problem imho. The fan has large drawbacks so it needs to have good advantages to. And a movement bonus is a much nicer advantage then stunning or screwing rocketjumps.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:45:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Shintaz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86882</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> I heard all this before with the old FaN, scouts defending it despite it being clearly over powered.</blockquote>

Actually, I fucking hate the thing. I'm not so much defending it, because it is one of the most annoying guns. However, since the update, less and less scouts (including myself on badlands) have ceased to use it. I'm putting effort into not getting it banned because people are bitching because the scout has something other classes don't. With the whole knockback effect being fixed and rendering the gun almost useless in most 1v1 situations, this is just a small add-on to equal it out imo. The soldiers and demos don't hurt themselves at point blank range, which, in my opinion, is a MUCH clearer advantage than being able to jump to places.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:36:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by zeKe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86879</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>the fan jump sends you VERTICALLY up. and when he lands, he'll have a whole ONE SHOT LEFT!!! Seriously... it's not going to be gamebreaking at all, or as annoying as when one bullet would just bring you to a halt.</blockquote>

That's simply not true, you've reloaded by the time you've landed, and you're assuming there's always going to be someone there waiting for the scout, which is just dumb. These jumps will be made all over the map to flank, escape and generally move around much quicker - it also allows scouts to reach areas they overwise couldn't. I heard all this before with the old FaN, scouts defending it despite it being clearly over powered.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:31:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by pl4t1num</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86868</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[i started using the fan because of these jumps, srsly they are op]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:04:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Shintaz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86857</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the fan jump sends you VERTICALLY up. and when he lands, he'll have a whole ONE SHOT LEFT!!! Seriously... it's not going to be gamebreaking at all, or as annoying as when one bullet would just bring you to a halt.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:23:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ijantis</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86856</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[They still fucked up on the fan even after beta testing unless its going back for more changes. The only thing people complained about was the knockback and the insane ammount of damage it did with 2 shots. Yet they went ahead and changed more than those two things.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:13:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by EXM</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> scout duo </blockquote>

Exactly! Scout limit has to be 2, becouse one by one, scouts are just a mild annoyance and generaly no threat at all. If admins would put scout limit 1, it would be twice (or maybe more?) as effective running sniper or even a pyro than a scout.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:57:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by zeKe</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I'll say it again, scouts can do virtually anything a soldier or demo can do in the way of jumps now, without taking any self-dmg - and that's a big thing, because when a soldier or demo RJ/SJ's he leaves himself well within the range of a two-shot from outside point blank range. 

Valve said they were aware of how powerful scouts are in competitive games and yet literally none of the changes so far go anyway to rectifying this imbalance; and leagues wont go scout limit one because the top teams are top largely because of the scout duo and would fight strongly against any change which would mean more emphasis placed upon the heavy classes.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:27:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dreadi</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Oh shit. These new ridiculous FaN jumps are the last nail in the coffin. That weapon needs to be banned if they're meant as a feature.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:20:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Shintaz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-5061/page-8/?recent=86924#post=86683</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[YOU COULD ROCKET JUMP...
OFF OF ROCKETS!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:26:18 +0200</pubDate>
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