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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;i37 TF2 Tourny&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Akasazh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=85468</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The trick is having a supermarket with a large strongbow supply nearby. Arx and betas casting clearly flauntered at TCL when they had to drive miles for a tipple.

Also finnish spectators need special, puke-protected accomodations.

If appe is playing dont forget alarm clock in his dormitory.

^lessons from tcl]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:05:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by beta</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=85285</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
Afaik tf2 hasnt been prize winning for the last 2? events.
And yep wizzo was watching us Dom on stage and has green lighted the prize money for next i-series. 
The money should be along the lines of i33 and thats just multiplay donating on their own, i've been told they will hassle their sponsers and really try to push for more money/support as they were really impressed with the i37 showing (25? teams with no prizes is pretty decent).</blockquote>

I was under the impression that it still followed the tier system, possibly not for this event but after i33, it went back to tier and guess what...we didnt get the minimum number of teams.

It would need some confirmation of sort before any of the European based teams could justify a trip over to i38 considering entrance fees and what not.

Also...if it is going to be 'big' - dont bloody put it all on 1 day...Id rather not play OR commentate midday to 10pm with no breaks, thanks.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:52:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Agron</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=85070</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>pipeline playoff!!</blockquote> i might cry if pl-maps are in the pool, div1 map pool maps only kkthxbaaaai ;x cheers byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:30:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Yoruichi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=85060</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[pipeline playoff!!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:52:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by frymaster</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[aye, would solve all those issues]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:59:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Akill</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=84792</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[map scoring should not be considered in anyway other than a 'win' 'draw' or 'loss'

3 points for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss. Its that simple and it doesnt require changing. If there is some sort of draw that needs to be resolved at the end of the group stage, either a one-map playoff is needed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:32:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by daithi1</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[And for some reason a default is worth 3-0 :/. We were 5-0 after about 6 or 7 mins in third round when the meeting thing was called. After the meeting the team didn't want to play. Didn't really make much difference only what map we would have played s7 on the first time.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:15:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SfnX</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=84713</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Darkowl, i beleive the caps screwed SC over when teams quit on them after 10 minutes - could be wrong.</blockquote>

+1 one of the teams left at 5-0 then the other 1 left with i think 15-20 mins to go and we still didnt know we had to keep playing for more point COZ WE WERNT TOLD.

fu tirris go die :D</blockquote>

oh ye sry thought both left

was only one team..wasnt us or supreme 7 who left was just ATK</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:44:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by littleminister</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=84711</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Darkowl, i beleive the caps screwed SC over when teams quit on them after 10 minutes - could be wrong.</blockquote>

+1 one of the teams left at 5-0 then the other 1 left with i think 15-20 mins to go and we still didnt know we had to keep playing for more point COZ WE WERNT TOLD.

fu tirris go die :D</blockquote>

was only one team..wasnt us or supreme 7 who left was just ATK]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:42:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SfnX</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=84709</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Darkowl, i beleive the caps screwed SC over when teams quit on them after 10 minutes - could be wrong.</blockquote>

+1 one of the teams left at 5-0 then the other 1 left with i think 15-20 mins to go and we still didnt know we had to keep playing for more point COZ WE WERNT TOLD.

fu tirris go die :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:39:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Yoruichi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-7/?recent=85468#post=84708</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Group stage map pool: cp_badlands, cp_badlands, cp_badlands

It'll be like pickups.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:35:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by frymaster</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-6/?recent=85468#post=84455</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the problem is that the possible scores are a lot more limited than in other matches.  Even if you multiply them up, it still makes the range a lot less nuanced (i.e. in dustbowl you either totally win or totally lose)

solution would be to avoid playing stopwatch maps in any situation where cap difference is going to matter... (i.e. not in group stages, or change to a 3 for win / 1 for draw / 0 for lose system for all matches)

realistically, using cap difference is unfair to a certain extent ANYWAY, as different maps are harder to cap than others... (only works for footy because all matches are played on the same kind of "map")]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:35:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by breath</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4936/page-6/?recent=85468#post=84445</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm looking through my notes from the tf2 tourny and a point was raised regarding the scoring used on Dustbowl. The concern was that basing scoring on caps/timelimit instead of rounds would be better as there's a potential 6 points instead of 2.

The rules on this were:
<blockquote>
cp_gravelpit, cp_dustbowl
These map’s are attack / defend.  The way they will be played is :
Gravelpit = 2 Rounds and Dustbowl = 1 Round
cp_gravelpit has to be played with 2 rounds (possible results: 2:0, 1:1, 0:2); cp_dustbowl is played with 1 round (possible results: 1:0, 0:1)
At the end of the round on Gravelpit (1 attack + 1 defence phase counts as one round.) the teams swap round. (AB/BA)
</blockquote>

What's peoples thoughts on this method?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:19:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Yoruichi</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Makes sense it will be though, last years winter LAN, fun as it was, didn't fit right for Stoneleigh, and I'm sure it costs them a lot more to run Stoneleigh than Newbury.

Looking forward to it, not been to one in Newbury since i10 - lets hope they give a whole section to TF2. :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:56:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Smurfy</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[They've ninjad the location http://www.multiplay.co.uk/eventdiary.asp Doesn't say newbury anymore "/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:49:10 +0200</pubDate>
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