ETF2L – Latest activity in “Why do we still use vent on pickups?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/ Reply by Nymthae https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77730 Within the last two weeks I was playing a pcw, and suddenly two players’ Mumble crashed which also made their TF2 minimize. There is no doubt that Mumble is still more unstable than Ventrilo. Indeed. I use mumble for pcws and have done for a while, though sometimes my computers stutters horribly - often it's due to a mumble crash. After that, I have to tab out to restart. Even if it doesn't crash, to reconnect into the same channel I have to tab out (unless there's actually a way noone has told me to reconnect to the same channel?). Vent, however, automatically reconnects to the same channel so there's no need for me to tab out. Tabbing out takes longer than it takes for me to spawn etc. and as a medic, it's fairly important time is not wasted (in building uber and healing). I'm not fussed either way in a sense. Both do the same job and I generally don't have quality problems with either, just mumble could be a bit more stable.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77730 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:01:16 +0200 Reply by Depch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77726 idk if anyone has mentioned it, but vent *does* have an overlay. There's an overlay tab in options. It's also got a much nicer/better bind system. These are 2 features I'd never use for pcws, but are really really handy for playing pickups. vent for pickups, mumble for pcw. How can those 2 features themselves put vent over mumble in pugs as mumble has them too?-) A really easy and effective bind system for mute/mute off and stuff and an easy to setup overlay too?-)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77726 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:51:11 +0200 Reply by fallen seraph https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77718 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77718 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:40:22 +0200 Reply by Lucifer https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77716 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77716 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:38:16 +0200 Reply by Depch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77712 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77712 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:33:05 +0200 Reply by Crunchy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77709 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77709 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:30:49 +0200 Reply by Depch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-4/?recent=77730#post=77708 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77708 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:28:03 +0200 Reply by duckface https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77701 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77701 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:17:18 +0200 Reply by Crunchy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77692 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77692 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:05:15 +0200 Reply by eoN https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77678 Here is a good vid showing the delay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfF36NvoJc Shouldnt let that guy say his name :X]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77678 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:25:43 +0200 Reply by beta https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77672 nobody cares if mumbel dumbel is free or open source, vent sounds better, maybe with lag, but fuck it, its just pickup Agree with this, didnh't bother reading the rest. Vent is provided for free, its a fun muck around so who cares]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77672 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:16:45 +0200 Reply by FireStorm https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77666 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77666 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:11:12 +0200 Reply by m0re https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77660 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77660 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:04:33 +0200 Reply by str8outtaCompton https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77655
though some are also just simply misinformed. (People who think Mumble crashes a lot or has more delay or worse sound quality)
Within the last two weeks I was playing a pcw, and suddenly two players' Mumble crashed which also made their TF2 minimize. There is no doubt that Mumble is still more unstable than Ventrilo. See: "a lot" One time isn't a lot. Mumble has become more stable over time. But I see your concern, if absolute stability is a priority over usability and audio quality/delay.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77655 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:57:52 +0200 Reply by F2 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4690/page-3/?recent=77730#post=77647 though some are also just simply misinformed. (People who think Mumble crashes a lot or has more delay or worse sound quality) Within the last two weeks I was playing a pcw, and suddenly two players' Mumble crashed which also made their TF2 minimize. There is no doubt that Mumble is still more unstable than Ventrilo. And about sound quality, on the multiplay ventrilo server we use a quite low sound quality. We actually used to use a higher quality but there were one person that complained that every time he talked he would lag ingame. Personally though I think the sound quality is just fine, I don't see it as a reason to switch to Mumble at all.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=4690&post=77647 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:52:26 +0200