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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;A warning for Tiscali (UK ISP) users reguarding Steam/Tf2.&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by toasty.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73572</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Beta,

I can't even be arsed to argue with them, their customer service line is never available. I've read on the eve online forums people (non steam) complaining about them, I've read on the steam forums and the tiscali official forums also.

They seem to be treating online games in the same way as torrents. Any isp that operates under this policy I simply don't won't any thing to do with. 

If I wasn't using them I'd find it funny as well to be honest. How did the meeting go when they brewed up that stroke of genius? I'm sure this is the plan to global domination (lol).

edit - gah I hate this avatar lottery.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:42:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by rayMears.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73262</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[haha.. tiscali is a freaking joke dont get me started :0. atm im looking at different ISP's to get as far away from tiscali as possible.... and their joke call centres, epic fail centres. i get high ping and packet loss spikes and loose connection D:]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:49:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jonni the juicy jew</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73236</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[/me pets fisshu on the head]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:01:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fisshu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73232</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Im also on Nildram and haven't had any problems as of yet, a little worrying though. Tiscali is such a shitty company! A friend of mine had in during my CS days and he would always ping between 60-250 during peak hours on a 4meg connection.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:51:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HTE</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73220</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Probably due to bandwidth usage from users downloading games, not playing them.

It's textook false economy from Tiscali. 

No such thing as "find a solution that suits us and our customers" just block it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:35:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nubonamission</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73201</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Whats even more of a joke is that TF2 uses little bandwidth compaired to everything else, a full 30kps max.

They should be prioritizing Game traffic not blocking it.

This stuff makes me fucking RAGE!
</blockquote>

Yeah, such a joke]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:08:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Smurfy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73193</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Wow, that sucks.

Does that include Pipex customers, which got 'taken over' by tiscali?

Don't remember having this problem so far..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:00:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DarkXenon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73165</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Whats even more of a joke is that TF2 uses little bandwidth compaired to everything else, a full 30kps max.

They should be prioritizing Game traffic not blocking it.

This stuff makes me fucking RAGE!


Whats your source anyway, I got a friend changing from tiscali as he gets constant loss and ping spikes, and some times cant even connect.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:27:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73108</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What a joke, call them up and complain.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:50:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by beta</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73105</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Not sure where you read this but I am on Nildram, which was taken over by Tiscali some time ago.

Never a problem with ports, speed (up &#38; down) any time of the day.

I am on a 12mb line down and around 850kbps up - any time of the day.  Have you tried giving them a call and explaining?  Obviously I have only ever spoken to the Nildram customer service end but I imagine Tiscali wouldn't be too different?

Mike]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:28:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by KOVACS</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73100</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hahah thats a fucking joke like...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:04:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Created by toasty.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-4516/page-1/?recent=73572#post=73091</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Tiscali and the ISP's they own (bulldog, toucan and a load of others I can't remember) have decided to block the ports Steam uses during 'peak hours' (5pm - 12 pm).

It took me a while to realise that it wasn't a local problem with my firewall/router and now others are catching on.

I'm leaving them asap, just giving people a heads up in case they ever decided to use them or couldn't use steam and didn't realise why.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:14:55 +0200</pubDate>
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