ETF2L – Latest activity in “Vaccinator - Viable or trash?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/ Reply by Cauthon https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555992 Quoted from Tamir
[...] Thats a good point, but dont you think like @Pheonix mentioned, that if they manage to get the med out alive its more of stalling time and not defending? eventually they will beat you by buffs vs no buffs.
Yeah, it changes to bad when you lose the element of surprise and enemy knows how to counter your vacci. If your med is good, he could change the medigun after the fight and build the normal uber like crazy and make it in time. But it's very situation based and kinda last straw of hope to defend the last. Not that viable while pushing but if you move fast and get the enemy caught offguard you can make it work.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555992 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:22:35 +0200 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555988 Quoted from Cauthon
I think it's viable if you spawn knowing you have a huge uber disadvantage. You can get few vacci-ubers ready and if they haven't spotted your vacci it might turn their uber bad real quick.
Thats a good point, but dont you think like @Pheonix mentioned, that if they manage to get the med out alive its more of stalling time and not defending? eventually they will beat you by buffs vs no buffs.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555988 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 03:05:32 +0200 Reply by Cauthon https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555987 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555987 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 02:28:41 +0200 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555986 Quoted from Firefly
Its aids to play with its aids to play against and the only person having fun is the medic using it.
and his pocket, you forgot.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555986 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 02:14:59 +0200 Reply by Guerilla radio https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555985 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555985 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:59:32 +0200 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555982 Quoted from lgl
viable at open lol
explain PCMR vs top5 then :v Quoted from Phnx
you answered your own question, people run it and do well = makes it viable. I don't like using it because all you do is defend last without a possibility of getting a solid push out of it because you have no buffs or actual uber so at the end you are still most likely to lose a round, but it will be delayed.
The thing is, it's not done much, so it can also be really bad and it can just be the issue of people not knowing how to deal with it? kinda like a new strat in mid. EDIT: Pheonix brought up a smart point, it can be used to buy time]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555982 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:50:30 +0200 Reply by Logically https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555981 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555981 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:45:37 +0200 Reply by gilad1280 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555979 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555979 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:33:17 +0200 Created by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33218/page-1/?recent=555992#post=555978 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33218&post=555978 Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:31:02 +0200