ETF2L – Latest activity in “Potential new competitive gametypes for map makers?”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “Potential new competitive gametypes for map makers?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/ Reply by F2 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-2/?recent=556841#post=556841 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556841 Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:01:23 +0200 Reply by Mould https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-2/?recent=556841#post=556826 Quoted from limede

I don't have any idea of what I'm doing here or if what I'm about to say as ever been proposed or if it is completely retarded. Be free to trash my shit idea. So, why don't we make 5CP non time based? I mean, time would still be important, but wouldn't be the core of winning. Basically we need to make a system that effectively punishes standing around itching your ball sack. So the stupid idea I had is, having a point system.

this is the kind of thing that sounds like a great idea but in practice it's essentially the same scenario- you still have the team that's winning with no reason to push holding. In any given situation you can come up with, there's always a team that's winning and a team that's losing- in a position where that happens, it's always on the losing team to make a play. Even if you reverse the situation and make it so it's +points instead of -points for 90seconds, you only reverse the team that has to make the play, the losing team is incentivised to not push because just by holding the eventually reset the match to a drawing state. Otherwise it's just a situation where the team that'll win if the clock runs down has no reason, just like it is currently. The point is that points per second is still a time based gamemode.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556826 Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:19:56 +0200 Reply by Triga https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=556823 Quoted from hr

[...] I think method's suggestion wouldn't just be a dm-fest. It would be moreso than 5cp but much less than koth in my opinion. There would certainly be some interesting tactics with rotating presence between points and spotting pushes early I think. Either way stalemates are terrible and a few more dmlords for a lot less stalemates seems like a good trade to me.

]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556823 Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:01:39 +0200 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=556807 Quoted from Ombrack

Almost everyone is crying about all these dmlords without brain, and then the ideas are about having more dm-centric maps. I must admit I dont get it.

I think method's suggestion wouldn't just be a dm-fest. It would be moreso than 5cp but much less than koth in my opinion. There would certainly be some interesting tactics with rotating presence between points and spotting pushes early I think. Either way stalemates are terrible and a few more dmlords for a lot less stalemates seems like a good trade to me.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556807 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:44:26 +0200 Reply by Ombrack https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=556806 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556806 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:52:18 +0200 Reply by Triga https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=556802 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556802 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:58:46 +0200 Reply by Limede https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=556388 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=556388 Sun, 03 Jul 2016 20:43:32 +0200 Reply by Bulow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555781 Quoted from Phnx

[...] it's not a good map to spectate, you cannot follow 8 points

I think Canalzone 2 only had 6 points, but that's fair criticism. I prefer playing games to watching them though, so if I had to choose between a fun map to play and a fun map to watch, I'd pick the former.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555781 Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:14:51 +0200 Reply by gilad1280 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555780 Quoted from Bulow

If you build it, they will come. And then hopefully they will play test it, and help you improve it. Canalzone 2 is a very good mad, should be played more.

it's not a good map to spectate, you cannot follow 8 points]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555780 Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:47:38 +0200 Reply by Bulow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555777 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555777 Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:44:22 +0200 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555770 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555770 Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:12:48 +0200 Reply by Mould https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555756 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555756 Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:35:21 +0200 Reply by SirCupcake https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555755 good regular koth maps are fine really. There's just not a huge deal to chose from at the moment]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555755 Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:41:35 +0200 Reply by BlitZo https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555747 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555747 Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:30:18 +0200 Reply by RayBanVision https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-33198/page-1/?recent=556841#post=555744 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=33198&post=555744 Mon, 20 Jun 2016 21:53:51 +0200