ETF2L – Latest activity in “RIP matchmaking HL (for now)”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “RIP matchmaking HL (for now)” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/ Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548623 Quoted from Steve!

Hildreth: If Valve is willing to put streams up there on the main menu, I'm pretty convinced competitive news aren't much of a stretch. A blog post on tf2.com even includes a random one night event of an NA only community server :D

I am talking about implementing news features in the main menu, as suggested here: https://youtu.be/ivNug9WTadU?t=198 I would love to see something like that implemented, hopefully people who have the Developers ears will be shouting for it. This way you can get all competitive news for everyone who plays the game on their screen upon launch - "Want to play Competitive TF2? ETF2L launching Season 23 of their 6v6 league, all skill levels welcome! Click here to find out more!"]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548623 Sun, 27 Dec 2015 08:55:07 +0100 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548614 Quoted from Hildreth

[...] You got a plan to make that happen? Can't just be relying on Valve to start putting competitive news in the main menu (that would be a cool feature).

I'm not saying it doesn't need self promotion and ETF2L doesn't need to put themselves out there. Just that even without promotion ETF2L will still attract people once MM is released. Pretty sure b4nny said TF2 streams will be implemented into the main menu, which streams are normally at the top? Even the hype around the release will help. I'm sure ETF2L and all the other leagues will have their plans when MM finally comes around. It's not something anyone is going to want to miss out on.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548614 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 21:29:39 +0100 Reply by Gentleman Jon https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548613 Quoted from Hildreth

You got a plan to make that happen?

Permzilla is just another scrub now]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548613 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:46:22 +0100 Reply by NeoN47 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548608 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548608 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:53:49 +0100 Reply by schabdaniel https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548603 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548603 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:50:28 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548594 Quoted from Permzilla

[...] Almost definitely not true. Even if ETF2L doesn't follow suit the awareness of competitive will surely boost the numbers of the site, even if the majority flock to other leagues offering MM rules. It all depends whether ETF2L could maintain the reputation of being Europe's Elite league. Not saying I don't think copying it (to a reasonable extent) is the correct decision, but it's not the only one.

You got a plan to make that happen? Can't just be relying on Valve to start putting competitive news in the main menu (that would be a cool feature).]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548594 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 06:38:46 +0100 Reply by Xzcvbn2 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548593 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548593 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:32:33 +0100 Reply by Endre https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548592 Quoted from shoras

[...] CSGO leagues' rules are different from matchmaking ones and they are surely not dead.

But keep in mind there are also a lot more people who play CSGO competetively than TF2]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548592 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:28:54 +0100 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548591 Quoted from fraac

etf2l copies mm or it dies, surely.

Almost definitely not true. Even if ETF2L doesn't follow suit the awareness of competitive will surely boost the numbers of the site, even if the majority flock to other leagues offering MM rules. It all depends whether ETF2L could maintain the reputation of being Europe's Elite league. Not saying I don't think copying it (to a reasonable extent) is the correct decision, but it's not the only one.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548591 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 00:45:43 +0100 Reply by CookieSlayer64 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548590 Quoted from shoras

[...] CSGO leagues' rules are different from matchmaking ones and they are surely not dead.

Not really. At least not even close as much as TF2 MM and ETF2L 6v6.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548590 Sat, 26 Dec 2015 00:15:02 +0100 Reply by W. WIlly https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-2/?recent=548623#post=548588 Quoted from fraac

etf2l copies mm or it dies, surely.

CSGO leagues' rules are different from matchmaking ones and they are surely not dead.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548588 Fri, 25 Dec 2015 23:57:49 +0100 Reply by Zorsaah https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-1/?recent=548623#post=548586 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548586 Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:33:57 +0100 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-1/?recent=548623#post=548584 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548584 Fri, 25 Dec 2015 21:48:01 +0100 Reply by Tseini94 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-1/?recent=548623#post=548581 Quoted from walters

[...] Learn to play other classes too!

I agree with this when talking about MM. You cant join ranked games in mobas and say "mid or feed" if you get last pick. Bad example but you get what i mean. If doing soloq i think bigger problem will be offclassing too much like me :^)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548581 Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:22:52 +0100 Reply by 13thDoctor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-32421/page-1/?recent=548623#post=548580 Quoted from Popcorp

6s meta will be developed by the pubbers themselves,

If the MM ruleset is different the meta will be different too. That's mostly what I was getting to. You'll see heavies whipped to mid throwing sandwiches at bombed medics and repositioning with GRU, engies with gunslinger guarding perma snipers or wrangling and rescue ranging their level 3 at last, possibly more than one demo or one medic if the rules allow it, all sorts of shenanigans. While in HL the whitelist is barely an issue, in 6s there are a few key items and class restrictions that allow the game to be minimally fluid and from what we know it seems unlikely that Valve is willing to impose them to a similar extent on their game. While MM might be fun in the end, there's a considerable chance the meta will be very different from the 6s played in leagues, arguably less fun with more stalemate-inducing classes and loadouts. What happens then? Do pubbers get introduced to a gamemode that effectively isn't "comp" in matchmaking and then those interested in comp find out they have to get used to a totally different ruleset? Or do the leagues conform their 6s to "Valve's game", with possibly a minority clinging on to the current format? It's a tough one.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=32421&post=548580 Fri, 25 Dec 2015 19:56:33 +0100