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    	    <title>Reply by beta</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-2/?recent=541455#post=541455</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Noticed you replied on tftv...will reply there]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 21:39:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by BnB. Mop</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-2/?recent=541455#post=541454</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from sorsa</i>
		<blockquote>Would be better if the upper bracket winner would just get a map-pick advantage.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 21:37:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Zorsaah</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-1/?recent=541455#post=541442</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Would be better if the upper bracket winner would just get a map-pick advantage.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 18:46:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mirelin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-1/?recent=541455#post=541438</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I don't think that you need to worry about the grand final management. 
I am sure all Yankee finals will be very close and we won't have to witness how froyotech are trashing their enemy team in 10 minutes. 

Cheers

Mirelin]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 17:57:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Theo Berlin</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Setlet</i>
		<blockquote>Usually WB advantages make anticlimactic finals ;_;</blockquote>
agreed]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 17:39:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CondoM</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-1/?recent=541455#post=541432</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Clark</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Exactly. 

As for the legitimacy of this approach - if you won the Upper Bracket that kind of already qualifies you as a serious contender for the title.

The same system was used in Grand Finals in Dota at International 2014 (or 2013, can't exactly recall) and it worked fine.</blockquote>
That's a very moot point as it was abandoned the very next 2 years for very good reasons.

If you win the upper bracket final you should be the stronger team entering the grand final, you can not win the upper bracket without winning the lower bracket finalist(or winning a team that won the lb finalist). 
The stronger team shouldn't need a free point to win the final, and winning the grand final with that free point makes for a very dissatisfying competition. 
Although if time is an issue using it is completely fine, its just the lesser option in my opinion.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 17:21:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Setlet</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-1/?recent=541455#post=541431</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Usually WB advantages make anticlimactic finals ;_;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 17:09:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Makaka</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Just1s</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Not 2-2. "wouldn’t be more than 4 maps in total", so the longest outcome would be 4 maps with the result of 3-2 or 2-3.</blockquote>

Exactly. 

As for the legitimacy of this approach - if you won the Upper Bracket that kind of already qualifies you as a serious contender for the title.

The same system was used in Grand Finals in Dota at International 2014 (or 2013, can't exactly recall) and it worked fine.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 15:53:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Just1s</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Phnx</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
I really don't think 2-2 and crowning the upperbracket winner as the world champion seems legit...</blockquote>
Not 2-2. "wouldn’t be more than 4 maps in total", so the longest outcome would be 4 maps with the result of 3-2 or 2-3.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:09:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Zorsaah</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from aura</i>
		<blockquote>If you dont like sideshow casting or sideshow casting in a box, or drunk sideshow casting, you could always listen to drunk sideshow casting in box.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:20:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gilad1280</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Clark</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
BO5 with Upper Bracket winner having 1 map advantage perhaps? This way Grand Finals would start with Upper Bracket winner leading 1-0 and only having to win two maps to be crowned champions (just like in BO3) but there wouldn't be more than 4 maps in total.</blockquote>
I really don't think 2-2 and crowning the upperbracket winner as the world champion seems legit...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 10:49:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Makaka</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nymthae</i>
		<blockquote>I'm going to post a more formal schedule soon, but I don't really want to condense things back... the consolation finals will be on Sunday morning (11 am), which is a BO3. There's a nice gap on Saturday evening instead which is free for two reasons: pub quiz, and for the potential lower finalists to have a large rest and a bit of free time. 

Of course, the real benefit of having this freedom is being able to have a later final to make it easier for spectators. I'd like to capitalise on that a little bit, even if we can't push it right back into peak time. 

I am fairly hopeful that we can get a BO5 in, but it will depend on what teams do get through so it will be up in the air for quite a while. Even if we can't formally do a BO5 we may well be able to get at least another map in for hype and enjoyment.</blockquote>
BO5 with Upper Bracket winner having 1 map advantage perhaps? This way Grand Finals would start with Upper Bracket winner leading 1-0 and only having to win two maps to be crowned champions (just like in BO3) but there wouldn't be more than 4 maps in total.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 05:17:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nymthae</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm going to post a more formal schedule soon, but I don't really want to condense things back... the consolation finals will be on Sunday morning (11 am), which is a BO3. There's a nice gap on Saturday evening instead which is free for two reasons: pub quiz, and for the potential lower finalists to have a large rest and a bit of free time. 

Of course, the real benefit of having this freedom is being able to have a later final to make it easier for spectators. I'd like to capitalise on that a little bit, even if we can't push it right back into peak time. 

I am fairly hopeful that we can get a BO5 in, but it will depend on what teams do get through so it will be up in the air for quite a while. Even if we can't formally do a BO5 we may well be able to get at least another map in for hype and enjoyment.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 01:38:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SilverAura</title>
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		<blockquote>(i.e. players that are realistic finalists having early flights back so they need to leave the venue by ~6 pm)</blockquote>
oh... that's just... derp. I'm sure it's still hypothetically possible to squeeze that bo5 in if finals start at 11 or 12 pm. Like, 5 x ±40 min (closest game with maximum amount of maps and if every map is golden cap and no viaduct is played) = 3 and half hours, excluding pauses and breaks between maps.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 01:21:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nymthae</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31874/page-1/?recent=541455#post=541410</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I've toyed with the idea of a BO5, although there's a slight issue with end timing (i.e. players that are realistic finalists having early flights back so they need to leave the venue by ~6 pm)

Edit: it's sort of under review basically but formally it will likely be BO3 because of the above, but may be adjusted on the day if both teams have all players avail]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 01:19:58 +0200</pubDate>
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