ETF2L – Latest activity in “What's next for Team Fortress 2?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/ Reply by zestymclime https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-3/?recent=531095#post=531095 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531095 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 13:23:28 +0200 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-3/?recent=531095#post=531080 Quoted from AnAkkk
[...] Source 2 is probably based on the engine that Dota uses, which is the problem: CS GO and Dota versions of the Source engine are full of exploits because they were originally based on an older version of the Orange Box engine that don't have all the fixes that were later done.
So it would be a problem specifically for TF2, should they do it the way you described? Got it. Quoted from Spycy
[...] You dont know the feel when you stab someone in the back and they just take 40 damage. Happens much more then facestabs. :)
Exactly, I would glady give the few strange backstabs and people shouting im Mumble at me "how was that a backstab???" for all these times I think or even say "Medic dropped! Oh, never mind..."]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531080 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 03:00:08 +0200 Reply by Spycy31 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-3/?recent=531095#post=531077 Quoted from DCS
If they ever fix the backstab hitreg it would be a huge nerf effectively for the spy. Facestabs have been part of the game for a long time now.
You dont know the feel when you stab someone in the back and they just take 40 damage. Happens much more then facestabs. :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531077 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 02:13:39 +0200 Reply by alf123 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-3/?recent=531095#post=531076 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531076 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 02:13:04 +0200 Reply by Rock https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-3/?recent=531095#post=531061 Quoted from DCS
If they ever fix the backstab hitreg it would be a huge nerf effectively for the spy. Facestabs have been part of the game for a long time now.
/care]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531061 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 00:12:04 +0200 Reply by AnAkIn_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-3/?recent=531095#post=531057 Quoted from Selek
[...] I didn't consider that, that might be a problem. I imagine it will be the same for the Dota 2 port to Source 2 though?
Source 2 is probably based on the engine that Dota uses, which is the problem: CS GO and Dota versions of the Source engine are full of exploits because they were originally based on an older version of the Orange Box engine that don't have all the fixes that were later done. Quoted from Phnx
[...] yes because being able to whip somebody when he is behind you is unfix-able. this is just the worst case, but there are many other small things that still can be improved
That can depend on a lot of things, network conditions, etc. Most of the issues will just be because of the lag compensation, it can't be fair for all players, this is one of the many reasons you can get killed behind walls after hiding for example. Without lag compensation it would be even worse though.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531057 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:10:11 +0200 Reply by Stinson_Out https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531056 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531056 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:00:45 +0200 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531054 Quoted from Phnx
[...] yes because being able to whip somebody when he is behind you is unfix-able. this is just the worst case, but there are many other small things that still can be improved
Yeah, I never quite understood that one. It should be as easy as enabling lag compensation for teammates, should it not?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531054 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 21:37:08 +0200 Reply by gilad1280 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531048 Quoted from AnAkkk
[...] I really doubt that TF2 will switch to Source 2, and if that happens they will unfix ton of exploits that they have fixed in TF2 before and were not fixed in L4D/CS GO/DOTA etc... A game engine can't magically fix the internet unfortunately, as long as there is latency the hit detection will never be perfect :)
yes because being able to whip somebody when he is behind you is unfix-able. this is just the worst case, but there are many other small things that still can be improved]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531048 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:40:11 +0200 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531042 Quoted from AnAkkk
[...] I really doubt that TF2 will switch to Source 2, and if that happens they will unfix ton of exploits that they have fixed in TF2 before and were not fixed in L4D/CS GO/DOTA etc...
I didn't consider that, that might be a problem. I imagine it will be the same for the Dota 2 port to Source 2 though?
A game engine can't magically fix the internet unfortunately, as long as there is latency the hit detection will never be perfect :)
Obviously. But considering how wonky the backstab mechanic can be at times, where neither the stabber nor the "stabbee" sees the players' alignment correctly, resulting in either failstabs or facestabs, I'm sure it can be significantly improved.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531042 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:50:32 +0200 Reply by popcorp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531027 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531027 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:48:28 +0200 Reply by PuzZle https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531026 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531026 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:05:36 +0200 Reply by kKaltUu https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531023 Quoted from Netsky
new hats and taunts
+ Mannpower updates + Localisation files]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531023 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:29:25 +0200 Reply by Netsky https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531022 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531022 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:06:12 +0200 Reply by The Useless https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31348/page-2/?recent=531095#post=531018 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31348&post=531018 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:37:11 +0200