ETF2L – Latest activity in “Etf2l New div system”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “Etf2l New div system” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/ Reply by dnscodcs https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529173 Quoted from L-iNC

nonsense

Your post makes it obvious that you have no idea how the system works. I suggest you start by reading this: http://etf2l.org/help/swiss-system-faq/ This is a competiton. If you want to have fun go play pubs.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529173 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 00:17:30 +0100 Reply by Metal Gear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529171 Quoted from L-iNC

[...] Do you even play in open? At least for us every time we've lost points the next game has not been balanced at all. The difference in 'skill' and number of teams in open makes it matter of luck whether you get good game or bad game. But hey, if w7 match is close then the system must work right? You should take bottom of mid and top of open for a new tier and make open keep open for new teams. You shouldn't prioritize silly prize like 3 euros each over having fun tiers to play in.

Then I hate to say it, but maybe your team is just bad and you should work harder to improve. EDIT: In fact, I just looked at your teams Win/Loss record. Every time you lost a match, you won the next one. What the fuck are you even complaining about?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529171 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 00:11:35 +0100 Reply by L-iNC https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529167 Quoted from Meeto

[...] I don't get what you're saying. We're not talking about you, we're talking about Open in general. Like Fraac said, if you're so bad to the point that you're even getting stomped by other bottom of the barrel teams, an then even the Div's can't help you. If anything, the tier system just helps with team motivation; no matter how bad or good you are, you'll always be playing teams just about equal to you, playing close games instead of getting constantly rolled just because you were unlucky enough to be placed in a Div packed with teams that shouldn't be there. It's a great system that has generated some of the funnest matches I've had in a long time.

Do you even play in open? At least for us every time we've lost points the next game has not been balanced at all. The difference in 'skill' and number of teams in open makes it matter of luck whether you get good game or bad game. But hey, if w7 match is close then the system must work right? You should take bottom of mid and top of open for a new tier and make open keep open for new teams. You shouldn't prioritize silly prize like 3 euros each over having fun tiers to play in.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529167 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 23:57:17 +0100 Reply by Muriel https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529166 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529166 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 23:43:53 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529163 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529163 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 23:14:18 +0100 Reply by Sonny Black https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529160 Quoted from fraac

It raises a point though. Maybe Open players don't understand the system and will become disheartened.

http://etf2l.org/help/swiss-system-faq/ It's all there. But a lot of players dont even bother to read the most simple rules. Without mentioning names I had an open team last week that didnt know they had to upload screenshots and they only realized in week 6 and only because I told them.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529160 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:55:43 +0100 Reply by CondoM https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529159 Quoted from fraac

It raises a point though. Maybe Open players don't understand the system and will become disheartened.

I feel it would've been the same if we had just switched from swiss to divisions, it's just something that's inevitable with such big changes. It will most likely pass over the next seasons I think.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529159 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:23:36 +0100 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529158 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529158 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:19:08 +0100 Reply by Fastus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529154 Quoted from Rex

I think this guy doesn't understand that some teams are going to lose every game regardless. The Swiss actually gives them more opportunities to not get rolled.

oke this i going to far i talked to sonny i did understand the benefists of this system and that it gonna be more balance in s21 you guys can finish with dis conversation]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529154 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:05:56 +0100 Reply by Rex McPwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529149 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529149 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:32:23 +0100 Reply by SilverAura https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529146 Quoted from ash

And we don't do "everyone's a winner!".

the old division was actually built around that concept. People would sit in xdiv for years and feel fine about themselves with no intentions to improve because ending the season 3rd/4th in their div was generally okay. With this new system being positioned as "generic_number" in your div does not sound so great anymore.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529146 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:18:52 +0100 Reply by Mould https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529145 Quoted from Nechi

[...] yeah i know they are big suprise aswell that what i said they first matches was vs new teams to they now can show their talent to anyone in the open tear aswell and again i didnt say this system is bad i just said there is few thing to improve i think it able to be really good with some improves about how the tiers will work

can you please occasionally press , when writing a sentence, my brain doesn't like this.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529145 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:18:42 +0100 Reply by ashnazg https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-5/?recent=529173#post=529143 has to be the very bottom. The important difference between Swiss and the former Divisions system: You had a bottom feeding team in basically every division. You have exactly one team at the very bottom of the Open tier - because Swiss enables the worst teams to play against each other. Yes, it will be frustrating to the very bottom team(s). But, well, this is competition. And we don't do "everyone's a winner!".]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529143 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:04:55 +0100 Reply by Lorave https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-4/?recent=529173#post=529139 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529139 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 20:56:46 +0100 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-31234/page-4/?recent=529173#post=529138 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=31234&post=529138 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 20:49:06 +0100