ETF2L – Latest activity in “Discussion Thread: s20 unlocks” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/ Reply by CHERRY COKE https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-12/?recent=523189#post=523189 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=523189 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:36:54 +0100 Reply by Lorave https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-12/?recent=523189#post=522963 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522963 Sat, 03 Jan 2015 02:07:16 +0100 Reply by Arthur https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-12/?recent=523189#post=522883 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522883 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 15:28:25 +0100 Reply by NeoN47 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-11/?recent=523189#post=522877 Quoted from robin
Those unlocks specially the dh ruin the game. Back when i started playing competitive you needed skill to play and now we have dh. DH ruins the game one shots the scouts, one shots the medics and 180 damage on mid air enemies and It doesn't require skill to use.....why don't we go back to the old whitelist ? When only few unlocks were used...and the game was more fun and competitive. Now with the dh is terrible no jumps and no scout a death game based on spam and passive actions. This is not competitive tf2 anymore.
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Didn't the direct hit recently get nerfed whereby it can no longer one shot any class? If so, how can you still argue that is it overpowered?
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[...] I'm fine to allow some unlocks to make games more different and funny, but direct hit really ruins the meta. We can't say it is a balanced weapon, a weapon that oneshot 2 ppl on 6 just spamming it's not balanced at all. DH also slow games and make ppl to be scared to jump. Allow the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol at least...
It doesn't ruin the meta, at all. In fact, it barely even affects the meta. You can't one shot scouts unless they run at you like retards, in which case they'd most likely get fragged anyway. You also seem to be forgetting the direct hit has practically no splash damage, making spamming redundant.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522840 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 02:00:48 +0100 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-11/?recent=523189#post=522839 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522839 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 02:00:05 +0100 Reply by Bestione https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-11/?recent=523189#post=522837 Quoted from Meeto
[...] So by your logic, american comp is not competitive? Most of these unlocks are allowed in ESEA and there's no problems with them. They all offer some advantage, but a much bigger downside. More unlocks is a good thing, I don't suppose you were around when medic unlocks were the only things allowed? That shit was boring to play and to watch.
I'm fine to allow some unlocks to make games more different and funny, but direct hit really ruins the meta. We can't say it is a balanced weapon, a weapon that oneshot 2 ppl on 6 just spamming it's not balanced at all. DH also slow games and make ppl to be scared to jump. Allow the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol at least...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522837 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 01:47:33 +0100 Reply by Metal Gear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-11/?recent=523189#post=522836 Quoted from robin
Those unlocks specially the dh ruin the game. Back when i started playing competitive you needed skill to play and now we have dh. DH ruins the game one shots the scouts, one shots the medics and 180 damage on mid air enemies and It doesn't require skill to use.....why don't we go back to the old whitelist ? When only few unlocks were used...and the game was more fun and competitive. Now with the dh is terrible no jumps and no scout a death game based on spam and passive actions. This is not competitive tf2 anymore.
So by your logic, american comp is not competitive? Most of these unlocks are allowed in ESEA and there's no problems with them. They all offer some advantage, but a much bigger downside. More unlocks is a good thing, I don't suppose you were around when medic unlocks were the only things allowed? That shit was boring to play and to watch.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522836 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 01:30:53 +0100 Reply by Sofaraway https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-11/?recent=523189#post=522835 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522835 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 01:18:29 +0100 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30769/page-11/?recent=523189#post=522834 Quoted from robin
Those unlocks specially the dh ruin the game. Back when i started playing competitive you needed skill to play and now we have dh. DH ruins the game one shots the scouts, one shots the medics and 180 damage on mid air enemies and It doesn't require skill to use.....why don't we go back to the old whitelist ? When only few unlocks were used...and the game was more fun and competitive. Now with the dh is terrible no jumps and no scout a death game based on spam and passive actions. This is not competitive tf2 anymore.
For one thing the direct hit does not one shot medics, it has a max damage of 140 so you're talking shit. Secondly the DH is bad but it has situational use so we're not going to see it all the time just like we don't see it in ESEA all the time. Finally do you really want to go back to before gunboats were allowed? Does anyone on ETF2L really think that is better for the game?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=30769&post=522834 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 01:15:38 +0100