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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Pills do 112 damage now?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by I3urkitech</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from IPZIE</i>
		<blockquote>wheres kaidus where is war :3</blockquote>

Kaidus was playing in a division 4 official last night]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:30:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by doksisthebest</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[dont care if its 112 or 100 - but pls volvo make it one number for all direct pipes and lets be done with it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:20:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Setlet</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I still hope that one day pipes would do contantly over 100 damage.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 05:41:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by 13thDoctor</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[As well as pretty much all the other stuff that got broken like the spycicle or engies carrying buildings. Riot cancelled boys]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 04:34:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Selektionsfaktor</title>
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		<blockquote>Fixed grenade projectiles doing more damage than expected</blockquote>

There you go, I hope you all got the stored energy out of your system. Everything back to normal.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 04:19:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DeathDisturbance</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[this is so fucking broken]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:22:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Lorave</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[wtf since when did they change sticky dets from 0.94 to 0.7]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:47:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by derippez</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[wheres kaidus where is war :3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:02:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fuxx</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
You cannot rely on pipes if you do not have several hundreds of hours in the Demo class, which is true for ~99% of the TF2 community. The damage has always been great but the weapon is so newbie-unfriendly that trusting your self-defense with it is more often than not going to result in your inevitable demise.</blockquote>
Pipes are pretty easy to aim to be honest, to be good with the sticky launcher takes a lot more skill in my opinion. But pipes are not reliable for anyone no matter how long you have on the class, for protecting yourself maybe but for outputting damage at the range demoman wants to be it's not at all. I don't think the problem people have with stickies is demoman sticking their feet it's how good stickies are compared to every weapon in the game and it's perceived lack of skill but we're talking about pubs players here. I think demoman is by far the best combat class in the game and I don't have a problem with that or think it's overpowered but I agree that stickies shouldn't ever be able to one hit a scout so capping the damage and leaving everything else alone is fine.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:29:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by LuckPusher</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Bona</i>
		<blockquote>byte how can you have been around for so long but not know that stickies det in a minimum of 0.94 sec</blockquote>

it's like .64 m8]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:10:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Selektionsfaktor</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Just relax, guys. Just wait for the bugfix that always comes after a bigger update. The Demo pipe buff and the instant Spy check bug are obviously by-products of whatever they changed in the update to make the new gamemode work and the health ID change.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:53:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fuxx</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kengur</i>
		<blockquote>volvo should have nerf stickies not pills.</blockquote>

They should de-nerf the Axtinguisher so as to incentive pyros to W+M1 a little less.
They should de-nerf the Heavy because the last thing that incredibly unpopular and seldomly seen class needs is a nerf.

I wouldn't mind at all if the maximum sticky damage got capped at a lowe value, as long as the general damage for your average sticky remains untouched.


Stickybombs are as abused as they are because they are (keyword!!!) <strong>reliable</strong> (keyword!!!). Just like the rocket splash damage is reliable. Just like the great shotgun spread is reliable. Just like the pyro flames are reliable.

You cannot rely on pipes if you do not have several hundreds of hours in the Demo class, which is true for ~99% of the TF2 community. The damage has always been great but the weapon is so newbie-unfriendly that trusting your self-defense with it is more often than not going to result in your inevitable demise.

I still remember years ago trying to defend myself from pyros in pubs with pipes. It was only after failing several times that I decided instead to learn to sticky my feet as I run away from them.

Identify the problem before trying to fix something.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:37:57 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by redwood</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Bob Bami</i>
		<blockquote>they dont need to nerf shit, fuck off</blockquote>

+1]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:24:54 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tjalling1996</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[they dont need to nerf shit, fuck off]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:22:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kengur</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[volvo should have nerf stickies not pills.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:54:47 +0100</pubDate>
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