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    	    <title>Reply by FlamingBear15</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30259/page-3/?recent=511761#post=511761</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[So people are mad coz they cant use new taunts in pregames.

That's cute]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:34:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kKaltUu</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

The FOV change situation isn't comparable at all. It was allowed until the loading bypassed insecure mode and allowed for a <em>possibility</em> of cheating. After that we denied the use of it since the gameplay relied on a third party plugin that wasn't enforceable in terms of even playing fields for all league matches.

As Bulow mentioned MOBA games: League of Legends and DoTA allow cosmetics, there is precedence in other games to allow cosmetics, as opposed to restricting it. 

So again, how would it enforce professionalism in the TF2 competitive scene?</blockquote>
I was refering to the if both teams allow it then it's ok server side plugin thing that happened, the point being that even if something is better (not that I think the fov plugin is better) there will always be someone who doesn't think that way and will ruin the whole thing, I could make other and better examples but that's besides the point.
It might be true that other esports allow cosmetics but that in itself is not an argument either, I can't comment on what I think of mobas or whatever else because right now I only really watch TF2 and hearthstone (lol). 
All I can say is what I see and appearance does promote professionalism, you turn up to a job you do it in a suit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:48:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Boom Legshot</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ducky</i>
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because there's no reason to ban them either. most hats and miscs have virtually no impact on the gameplay,the ones that do are banned already (like those cringle shoes,noisemakers etc.)

you could ban them,yes. but since there's some work involved adding all the hats/miscs into a blacklist and distributing that blacklist to everyone people haven't done it

it wouldn't make a difference anyways so why bother</blockquote>

I guess it would give a slight fps boost to users but I'm not sure ?

<i>Quoted from hr</i>
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I believe we use a whitelist not a blacklist and it makes no difference to the effort as items are all listed as 1 or 0. As I said the reason would be to make the game look more professional and something tells me etf2l used to ban them all but stopped because I kinda remember watching casts that way but I could be mistaken.</blockquote>

They are only useful on opposing scouts or sollies because it's easier to tell others which took damage.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:47:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30259/page-2/?recent=511761#post=511750</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from hr</i>
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Letting players decide everything isn't a great idea look at the fov changing plugin situation. Not that I feel strongly about this but I think hats look stupid on a cast/in general and make TF2 look less serious, I feel it would be better to have stock hats and give the viewer a more consistent viewing experience.</blockquote>

The FOV change situation isn't comparable at all. It was allowed until the loading bypassed insecure mode and allowed for a <em>possibility</em> of cheating. After that we denied the use of it since the gameplay relied on a third party plugin that wasn't enforceable in terms of even playing fields for all league matches.

As Bulow mentioned MOBA games: League of Legends and DoTA allow cosmetics, there is precedence in other games to allow cosmetics, as opposed to restricting it. 

So again, how would it enforce professionalism in the TF2 competitive scene?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:05:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bulow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30259/page-2/?recent=511761#post=511749</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from hr</i>
		<blockquote>Letting players decide everything isn't a great idea look at the fov changing plugin situation. Not that I feel strongly about this but I think hats look stupid on a cast/in general and make TF2 look less serious, I feel it would be better to have stock hats and give the viewer a more consistent viewing experience.</blockquote>

I don't play/know much about MOBAs, but I know you can purchase alternate skins for different characters - are these banned in competitive settings?  Or gun skins in CS:GO.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:23:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kKaltUu</i>
		<blockquote>[...] 

The players can decide whether to wear cosmetics or not. I'm curious how you think it would increase professionalism, so please elaborate.</blockquote>
Letting players decide everything isn't a great idea look at the fov changing plugin situation. Not that I feel strongly about this but I think hats look stupid on a cast/in general and make TF2 look less serious, I feel it would be better to have stock hats and give the viewer a more consistent viewing experience.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:57:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-30259/page-2/?recent=511761#post=511743</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from hr</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
I believe we use a whitelist not a blacklist and it makes no difference to the effort as items are all listed as 1 or 0. As I said the reason would be to make the game look more professional and something tells me etf2l used to ban them all but stopped because I kinda remember watching casts that way but I could be mistaken.</blockquote> 

The players can decide whether to wear cosmetics or not. I'm curious how you think it would increase professionalism, so please elaborate.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:44:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ducky</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

because there's no reason to ban them either. most hats and miscs have virtually no impact on the gameplay,the ones that do are banned already (like those cringle shoes,noisemakers etc.)

you could ban them,yes. but since there's some work involved adding all the hats/miscs into a blacklist and distributing that blacklist to everyone people haven't done it

it wouldn't make a difference anyways so why bother</blockquote>
I believe we use a whitelist not a blacklist and it makes no difference to the effort as items are all listed as 1 or 0. As I said the reason would be to make the game look more professional and something tells me etf2l used to ban them all but stopped because I kinda remember watching casts that way but I could be mistaken.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:27:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dnscodcs</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from hr</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Honestly don't know why comp leagues don't ban hats and miscs, no reason not to and it makes comp look like a joke in my opinion. Does etf2l ban them? I think not but I've always played with a no hat mod.</blockquote>

because there's no reason to ban them either. most hats and miscs have virtually no impact on the gameplay,the ones that do are banned already (like those cringle shoes,noisemakers etc.)

you could ban them,yes. but since there's some work involved adding all the hats/miscs into a blacklist and distributing that blacklist to everyone people haven't done it

it wouldn't make a difference anyways so why bother]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:32:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by b33p_</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spreijer</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I didn't do almost anything and won gold for some reason.

Wanna repeat for the medals))))</blockquote>

I suppose if you can't win UGC you may as well roster ride on a team that can. 8-)

<i>Quoted from moursi</i>
		<blockquote>brb setting up a petition :^)</blockquote>

I'll make the extra long speech video. We can link it on the petition.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 05:57:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Collaide</i>
		<blockquote>They should ban hats and miscs too</blockquote>
Honestly don't know why comp leagues don't ban hats and miscs, no reason not to and it makes comp look like a joke in my opinion. Does etf2l ban them? I think not but I've always played with a no hat mod.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:37:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Snowdream</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[they should at least allow the demoman WOOOOOOOOOOO]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:26:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sprayer40</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Bloodis</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

http://etf2l.org/recruitment/195447/

Apparently!</blockquote>

I didn't do almost anything and won gold for some reason.

Wanna repeat for the medals))))]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 23:57:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bloodis</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spreijer</i>
		<blockquote>people play ugc?</blockquote>

http://etf2l.org/recruitment/195447/

Apparently!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 23:03:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Boom Legshot</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[They should ban hats and miscs too]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:09:37 +0200</pubDate>
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