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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Banned unjustly by Sourcemod Anticheat from a pub&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502240</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thank you for your comments and feedback about SMAC, guys. Greatly appreciated :)

Ideally, if I could get a div2+ heavy (or someone who's just a really good heavy, and plays video games on a high level) with a high sensitivity to join that server, and stomp it, I think it would be a great start. I got banned right after I killed a few people, with fast reaction times. So I'm convinced this SMAC system, threw off so many false positives on me, that it thought I was hacking.

Of course, my main goal now is to prove that this SMAC system is not reliable, as some people might think. Even though I might get unbanned from the server, this might happen again, or even to someone else.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:54:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502214</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It seems smart to me. But because people are lazy you would need to offer a lot, like £100. Although a better way would be for evil to go to someone else's house and get their account banned by playing in the same way, and film it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:05:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rychius</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502202</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Yes, I believe it's a win/win. Whenever someone good enough steps up, and gets banned, that individual will get rewarded, and at the same time, my innocence will be proven and hopefully the SMAC system will get modified/flagged in such a way, that it won't happen again :)</blockquote>
no thats retarded]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:31:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Finn Smith</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502183</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[We're using SMAC on our community servers and apparently it's banning people doing the conga taunt for eyetest violations.

Woops.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:58:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Pagan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502180</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I use all sorts of hacks since s13 and haven't been caught yet. Strongly recommended! But shush!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:52:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by PuzZle</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502170</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[You must really like that pub

p.s RIP Gladblad Badwater 24/7 &#60;3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:27:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502169</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[SMAC has a lot of false positives, mostly for viewangles detections, I wouldn't rely on it. And the aimbot detection system is only heuristics, so it's quite stupid to have an autoban for that.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 14:25:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lazybear</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-2/?recent=502240#post=502154</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Flawless logic]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:50:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Yes, I believe it's a win/win. Whenever someone good enough steps up, and gets banned, that individual will get rewarded, and at the same time, my innocence will be proven and hopefully the SMAC system will get modified/flagged in such a way, that it won't happen again :)</blockquote>
I can see this turning out just like you explained :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:49:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Yes, this is clearly the correct way</blockquote>

Yes, I believe it's a win/win. Whenever someone good enough steps up, and gets banned, that individual will get rewarded, and at the same time, my innocence will be proven and hopefully the SMAC system will get modified/flagged in such a way, that it won't happen again :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:47:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lazybear</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
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Yes, this is clearly the correct way</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:44:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Think I've been going about this the wrong way:
<strong> If anyone can get themself falsely banned by SMAC-Aimbot on this server: 87.117.217.32:27018 - They will be rewarded with items/games of your choosing from the steam market by a value of 60€, by me. </strong></blockquote>
Yes, this is clearly the correct way]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:40:33 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Frix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-1/?recent=502240#post=502142</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CeeGee</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Stickies do so much damage you have no need for cheats.</blockquote>

Not anymore D:]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:27:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:26:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-29488/page-1/?recent=502240#post=502134</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Lazybear</i>
		<blockquote>Im not sure how posting this thread on etf2l is useful for you. If anything it will just discredit you unneccessarily and theres nothing etf2l can do to unban you from a pub server. SMAC is very essential for pub servers where constant admin supervision would be needed otherwise. Heck, i trust SMAC way more than a regular pub admin and with good reason. Smac has false positive threshholds depending on the detection so if a user gets auto banned there usually is good reason. I wont pretend its perfect but false bans are far far rarer than legit ones. Keep in mind that the AC team of etf2l wont regard such detections as pure evidence. At most it's grounds for suspicion and further checking of a player. Sorry for spelling im on my phone on a beach in greece, im such a nerd</blockquote>

Thanks for your response :)

I'm not asking ETF2L AC admins for help to unban me from a random pub. I'm asking the TF2 community for help by asking if they have any experience with Sourcemod Anticheat. Thanks for sharing your information.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:08:27 +0200</pubDate>
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