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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Should viaduct be allowed on TF2Pickup?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by thecakeisalie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=489738</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Add it pls!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:21:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kuferl</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=489683</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from navitsu</i>
		<blockquote>Finally! :D
It's here</blockquote>

let's see for how long...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:41:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by IvanDonat</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=489679</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Finally! :D
It's here]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:24:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=489675</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from rviens</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Liar. It's fine in pug2.</blockquote>

One of the trolls would say that tho :D brb #believeinviaduct4sviens

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:07:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DamnEasy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=489672</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[but on viaduct you dont need to play like scout or roamer because it doesnt really matter...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:23:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by LaMqTa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=489631</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Added koth_pro_viaduct_rc4 to the map pool! - http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23781/page-1/#post-489629 
Also if anyone feels like someone is off-classing too much, just report him. Usually if you off-class more than your "actual" class you will get banned for sure! :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:07:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by rviens</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-3/?recent=489738#post=488977</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>trust me from experience, it's not a viable option, it's been tested in pickup2 and thats with "known" players let alone trolls joining a public tf2 system...

You'll notice how light classes get over used even more so than if it was on cp_badlands...

Just my two cents

Cheers

Byte</blockquote>

Liar. It's fine in pug2.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 22:39:44 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by madmanatrakzi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-2/?recent=489738#post=488965</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[even though there are plenty of good reasons to add it, many people (including me) would hate to see it in tf2pickup.net

I think it would be better to leave it out than cause trouble by including it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:58:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gilad1280</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-2/?recent=489738#post=488963</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the problem is viaduct doesn't have a stable "meta" yet, unlike older maps like badlands and granary, people with small exp know what to do there, but on viaduct there are so many options to rollout, hold, push, and offclass that it might be an issue to be coordinated with your team about what to do.
I don't think I would enjoy playing viaduct as one of the combo classes.
but that can be just me.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:44:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[This is really a non-issue. 
Offclassing is allowed in officials, thus it isn't anything more than normal having the option open in pickups.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:54:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by konr</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]


you make it sound as if offclassing is a bad thing
offclassing can be viable on any map - deliberately offclassing when it is not viable is the thing that you want players reported for</blockquote>I don't at all make it sound like that. I'm responding to what people said about offclassing being the reason that it isn't viable in a pickup map pool because <strong>that</strong> implies that they're doing it way more than is normal or at stupid times.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:54:33 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from konr</i>
		<blockquote>If you choose to play viaduct you basically choose to deal with offclasses. It should be allowed but a warning should be added for new players that says either that they shouldn't offclass too much or that it may happen a bit more than usual!</blockquote>


you make it sound as if offclassing is a bad thing
offclassing can be viable on any map - deliberately offclassing when it is not viable is the thing that you want players reported for]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:42:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by konr</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-2/?recent=489738#post=488942</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[If you choose to play viaduct you basically choose to deal with offclasses. It should be allowed but a warning should be added for new players that says either that they shouldn't offclass too much or that it may happen a bit more than usual!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:36:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kuferl</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-2/?recent=489738#post=488937</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kuferl</i>
		<blockquote>We had it in the map-pool before the re-make.
People were complaining quite a lot as far as i remember so we removed it. 
Maybe I'll make a general mapvote, where everybody can vote for the maps in the mappool or so. Will see when i got time</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:16:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-28234/page-2/?recent=489738#post=488936</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[trust me from experience, it's not a viable option, it's been tested in pickup2 and thats with "known" players let alone trolls joining a public tf2 system...

You'll notice how light classes get over used even more so than if it was on cp_badlands...

Just my two cents

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:14:19 +0100</pubDate>
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