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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;EU IRC 6v6 D:&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Frix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475626</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Trath</i>
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What is the problem with IRC that you "can't believe somebody still uses it"? (and your words are hinting towards it being "outdated"/old)

If younger people don't know what IRC is, that isn't a problem. Just like somebody who has never encountered Facebook isn't a problem/"bad".
mIRC and all the other clients make thing so simple, any new guy can get into it. 
If 10 year old me could manage to play CS 1.6 pugs on IRC, anybody can do it.

[...]

Nothing is "faster" about an internet pug system, its just more accessible. You can have subs in an IRC system as well.

"I remember the old pickups on irc which were not bad but the registration and all that shit so you were actually able to play was just bad, slow and complicated. " 

I think you are talking about the pug channel I tried to start. 
Indeed, it focused too much on "fancy" features and the user experience was shit. (and the registration method/page was beyond shit :D).
But don't take an example from that. Look at pixel pickup, where there was no registration and no Q auth, that pug channel was great, people just didn't cherish what they had (an simple pug system).

IRC pugs can definitley function.</blockquote>

But its easier to use everything on the web, meaning playing pickups and finding enemies on #tf.wars with webchat.quakenet. You are not wrong tho]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:58:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by trath</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475615</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Can't believe that people still use IRC :P So old school. Even 10 years ago, it was old school. I wouldn't really imagine quakenet being that active anymore, is it? Whenever you talk to the younger generation of gamers, a lot of them don't even know what IRC is.</blockquote>

What is the problem with IRC that you "can't believe somebody still uses it"? (and your words are hinting towards it being "outdated"/old)

If younger people don't know what IRC is, that isn't a problem. Just like somebody who has never encountered Facebook isn't a problem/"bad".
mIRC and all the other clients make thing so simple, any new guy can get into it. 
If 10 year old me could manage to play CS 1.6 pugs on IRC, anybody can do it.

<i>Quoted from frixx</i>
		<blockquote>Why would we want a new irc pickups when we have an internet one tf2pickup.net which has a faster system, launches game automatically, has report for sub system. I remember the old pickups on irc which were not bad but the registration and all that shit so you were actually able to play was just bad, slow and complicated. Excluding the invite only pickups, the irc pickups just don't function anymore</blockquote>

Nothing is "faster" about an internet pug system, its just more accessible. You can have subs in an IRC system as well.

"I remember the old pickups on irc which were not bad but the registration and all that shit so you were actually able to play was just bad, slow and complicated. " 

I think you are talking about the pug channel I tried to start. 
Indeed, it focused too much on "fancy" features and the user experience was shit. (and the registration method/page was beyond shit :D).
But don't take an example from that. Look at pixel pickup, where there was no registration and no Q auth, that pug channel was great, people just didn't cherish what they had (an simple pug system).

IRC pugs can definitley function.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:12:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Frix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475606</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Why would we want a new irc pickups when we have an internet one tf2pickup.net which has a faster system, launches game automatically, has report for sub system. I remember the old pickups on irc which were not bad but the registration and all that shit so you were actually able to play was just bad, slow and complicated. Excluding the invite only pickups, the irc pickups just don't function anymore]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:40:56 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475602</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

IRC isn't used solely by gamers.

Also Quakenet is only <em>one</em> network (and they're not even the biggest), there are many others. IRCnet, EFnet, Undernet, Rizon, to name a few. Not sure if all of those still exist but don't see why they wouldn't.</blockquote>

EFNet should still exist in all its splendor. DCC bots all over the place, that releases TV-shows(and other stuff) a few hours after they have aired in their respective country. But I was referring more to Quakenet and gamers :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:10:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475601</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Can't believe that people still use IRC :P So old school. Even 10 years ago, it was old school. I wouldn't really imagine quakenet being that active anymore, is it? Whenever you talk to the younger generation of gamers, a lot of them don't even know what IRC is.</blockquote>

IRC isn't used solely by gamers.

Also Quakenet is only <em>one</em> network (and they're not even the biggest), there are many others. IRCnet, EFnet, Undernet, Rizon, to name a few. Not sure if all of those still exist but don't see why they wouldn't.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:49:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by LimputtaJa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475599</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Russian Guyovich</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Don't fix what ain't broke etc.</blockquote>
You should just shut up, fake russian]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:46:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475597</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Can't believe that people still use IRC :P So old school. Even 10 years ago, it was old school. I wouldn't really imagine quakenet being that active anymore, is it? Whenever you talk to the younger generation of gamers, a lot of them don't even know what IRC is.</blockquote>

Don't fix what ain't broke etc.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:54:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475596</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Its still as good as ever to find pcw's...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:44:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475594</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Can't believe that people still use IRC :P So old school. Even 10 years ago, it was old school. I wouldn't really imagine quakenet being that active anymore, is it? Whenever you talk to the younger generation of gamers, a lot of them don't even know what IRC is.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:36:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ScArY_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475584</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It was fine when F2 was running the Pickup Channel some years ago but now both tf2pickup and tf2lobby are unreliable unfortunately.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:34:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vinusan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=475542</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Rake</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Europe and pickup2 are invite only channels. There used to be a #mpuktf2.pickup, but nobody played there so it died, hence the web pickups these days.</blockquote>
Yeah I guess so...but when you find pickup full or get banned from it for a few days etc. IRC is always a really good alternative. Also wasnt here when this was created but hope it comes back: http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25672/page-1/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:14:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rake</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=473151</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from VinuJ</i>
		<blockquote>#tf.wars isnt that for people who already have a team of 6 and are waiting for another team of 6 to play against? Im looking for a kind of pickup. #tf.europe is not working and the#mpuktf2 one is not even letting me do anything :/</blockquote>

Europe and pickup2 are invite only channels. There used to be a #mpuktf2.pickup, but nobody played there so it died, hence the web pickups these days.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:04:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vinusan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=473145</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[#tf.wars isnt that for people who already have a team of 6 and are waiting for another team of 6 to play against? Im looking for a kind of pickup. #tf.europe is not working and the#mpuktf2 one is not even letting me do anything :/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:18:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-2/?recent=475626#post=473059</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[#tf.wars?
#mpuktf2.pickup2?
#tf2.europe?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:00:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27314/page-1/?recent=475626#post=473056</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nlpg">Jokor's mixes</a> happen most nights. If you turn up in mumble and say you're new the rest is easy. Easier than irc.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:13:46 +0200</pubDate>
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