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    	    <title>Reply by Kaneco</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-4/?recent=475086#post=475086</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[calm down guise, I only wanted some opinions and I already made my choice anyway :D altough I was definitely impressed by evcz patience answering all the questions]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2013 00:49:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-4/?recent=475086#post=475077</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>Yes, you could do it cheaper. I could do it cheaper. You know why? <strong>Because neither of us care about making money at the end of the month</strong>. There's a difference between chucking some servers into an admin panel vs actually providing support, hosting a solid website, making sure everything runs perfect, etc. That shit costs time and money and I really think you're being narrow minded in ignoring this when I know for a fact that you're fully aware of it.</blockquote>

But that is exactly what I said..

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<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>No, it won't have customer support and have staff online 24/7 to assist you with whatever it is you need assistance with, it won't come with a neat and functional control panel, and it won't sustain heavy ddos attacks. If you require those things, then yes, you have to pay for them (as clearly explained by evcz).</blockquote>

@skeej probeer er een beetje bij te blijven, je lijkt het niet helemaal te volgen ;)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2013 00:05:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[dan hoor je het ook eens van een ander]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 23:56:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-4/?recent=475086#post=475061</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I know this is a slightly old thread, but I just wanted to address this:

Spike, you're being completely unreasonable and I genuinely think the patience evcz has shown with you is truly the mark of someone who knows how to business.

Yes, you could do it cheaper. I could do it cheaper. You know why? <strong>Because neither of us care about making money at the end of the month</strong>. There's a difference between chucking some servers into an admin panel vs actually providing support, hosting a solid website, making sure everything runs perfect, etc. That shit costs time and money and I really think you're being narrow minded in ignoring this when I know for a fact that you're fully aware of it.

Almost every GSP around right is fucking garbage because there's too many morons who think that all it takes to run a business is renting a server and knowing how to operating a linux shell. The profit margins have been made so low, that anyone who knows what they're doing can't make a reasonable amount of money on it.

Hiperz have done an incredible job of staying competitive in a market with a quickly disappearing profit margin, and if you think they're too expensive then go sign up with gameservers.com and tell me how long your support ticket takes to be properly dealt with about regular lag at peak times.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:33:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by E-thug</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-4/?recent=475086#post=475054</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I like hiperz]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:36:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from huhystah</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
No. I just replied to your post which made no sense.</blockquote>

No point replying to the village dribbler.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:27:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by huhas</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Limp.</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Mad?</blockquote>
No. I just replied to your post which made no sense.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:21:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by EmilioEstevez</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-4/?recent=475086#post=474986</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Or if you're comfortable installing stuff yourself you could get a full box for about the same price as a 20man hiperz server and run multiple servers on it with stv and a mumble and a website and an ftp server, etc.

http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi_16g.xml

Of course you're on your own to an extent with support, but its really not very difficult to do yourself on a small scale and theres plenty of forums/guides to help you out.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:03:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Alfie</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from alba</i>
		<blockquote>Im thinking about a tragic server, heard they are cheap and good, any thoughts?</blockquote>
Yeah man, two of my friends bought one each and let me manage it. tragic is a really nice guy and have had long chats with him about stuff.

Never had any problems with it. A++]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:03:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by LimputtaJa</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from huhystah</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Why is that exactly? I do not care if Hiperz sponsor me. However I can share my experience with Hiperz organization as I have had few issues occured and every single issue was sorted within the same day. For example when someone started ddosing servers (and still does afaik), quite a few people reported it to Evcz and he took care of it. The next day, my server was having no issues even after getting attacked. Usually every single organization takes at least 24 hours to reply and Evcz replies asap. Having latest maps, configs is a massive bonus especially if you are a lazy person and can't be arsed downloading FTP to install everything on your own. The panel to manage server is super simple to use and yet very effective (especially if you have no idea how rcon works, it is a massive bonus). 

/rant off</blockquote>

Mad?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:59:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[*slow clap*]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:02:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>I don't even actually run a GSP</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:50:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MastaLogii</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from hiperz-evcz</i>
		<blockquote>Thanks for the kind comments :)

As for latency we know that it's hard to have a good latency to all the EU countries at the same time.

Even Germany seems difficult to be "good" for everbody.
For UK we generally see better results from Netherlands, for souther countries (PT, ES and so on) we see better results from France.

We do our best to fix routing for whoever sends in a test ( https://www.hiperz.com/knowledgebase/17/Reporting-high-ping-or-latency-issues.html ) expecially for our NL location (that's the one we can "fix" in the fastest timeframe)
I admit we generally see a low usage of that test, the more results we have, the better we can get :)

The reason we have "multilocation" available is to let people use all our locations all the time based on the best choice for both teams.</blockquote>
oh yeah this is great, i started having some routing issues out of the blue so i message them, they fixrd it really fast even offered to swap the location of the server]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:05:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by hiperz-evcz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-3/?recent=475086#post=474894</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Limp.</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Your opinion is baised</blockquote>

:D

I admit we are providing the DM server for free.

We do those "stunts" as that's the best way for us to improve.
That means profiling attacks, monitoring latencies and getting people feedbacks.
We do not do that to "buy" people, but as a way to improve our "know how" :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:06:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by hiperz-evcz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27242/page-3/?recent=475086#post=474893</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the kind comments :)

As for latency we know that it's hard to have a good latency to all the EU countries at the same time.

Even Germany seems difficult to be "good" for everbody.
For UK we generally see better results from Netherlands, for souther countries (PT, ES and so on) we see better results from France.

We do our best to fix routing for whoever sends in a test ( https://www.hiperz.com/knowledgebase/17/Reporting-high-ping-or-latency-issues.html ) expecially for our NL location (that's the one we can "fix" in the fastest timeframe)
I admit we generally see a low usage of that test, the more results we have, the better we can get :)

The reason we have "multilocation" available is to let people use all our locations all the time based on the best choice for both teams.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:04:44 +0200</pubDate>
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