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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Bonk&#039;d, a TF2 podcast&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by give-me-your-caviar</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-3/?recent=473463#post=473463</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I admit, the last episode was weaker than previous ones. My excuse is that we were experimenting with streaming live on Twitch, so we could play about with audience participation and get instant feedback if something wasn't correct. 

What actually happened is that we got influenced by the aids that is Twitch chat and ended up bitchier than normal. That said, shittalking is (and always will be) a part of Bonk'd.

We don't take it anywhere near as seriously as the people who complained though, which is a little bit hilarious in some aspects.

It's also harder to talk about Steel when you bring in a guest who's played Div 1 ETF2L. The guests next time will be a little more rounded &#38; I feel that by Week 4/5, the UGC season has gone on for long enough for some diamonds in the dungheap to have a chance to shine.

This epi was pretty naff in all fairness, can be improved though.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 02:40:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bulow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-3/?recent=473463#post=473233</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I’ve listened to the latest episode, and I think the most repeated phrase of ‘meh’ would be a pretty accurate description.  The main problem appears to be that you haven’t quite found the identity of the show yet, what you want it to be.  I look up and read Andyvich’s comment above:


<i>Quoted from andyvich</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

High-level play is not a priority (for me at least) compared to that nice feeling you get when you say "hey, this group of nine friends in Steel are doing really well, good job guys" and they all add you on Steam to be starstruck afterwards.

Maybe that's my agenda. Natural highs &#62; TF2.</blockquote>


And yet the largest proportion of the show is dedicated to that level, while anything below mid silver is glossed over very quickly.  Moreover, a lot of the coverage was quite critical. That’s absolutely fine, everyone knows that I love a good slagging, but it just seems at odds with what you say you want to do.

P.S. No more beating on The Digital Alliance drum please, it’s getting tired.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:45:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toregant</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=473197</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://youtu.be/6q3x9iRG2a4

Andy did a new ep with Bananaman.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:59:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toregant</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471401</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Enders Flame</i>
		<blockquote>And in fairness there are tonnes of team in UGC still so presumably they are interested in it! Other people can podcast/write/whatever about wireplay I am sure if they want to. Not entirely sure how this post descended into drama tbh, bunch of drama-mungers the lot of ya :P.</blockquote>

Infinite happened.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:22:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jroman0</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471387</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[And in fairness there are tonnes of team in UGC still so presumably they are interested in it! Other people can podcast/write/whatever about wireplay I am sure if they want to. Not entirely sure how this post descended into drama tbh, bunch of drama-mungers the lot of ya :P.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:45:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by give-me-your-caviar</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471359</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Russian Guyovich</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Infinite was referring to Hildreth dood</blockquote>

Yeah, I just kind of wanted to put it out there, considering the whole "COVER WIREPLAY! COVER UGC!" debate going on in this thread.

We just don't have any agendas, honest. We're not even sure who next weeks guests are. We'll probably always cover UGC because it's where me &#38; TJB are from, but at the same time Wireplay does look really interesting this season.

A lot of people have said that Wireplay has the higher-level teams and deserves more coverage, but Bonk'd didn't start as a podcast to talk about UGC Platinum. We started off talking about Silver &#38; Steel.

High-level play is not a priority (for me at least) compared to that nice feeling you get when you say "hey, this group of nine friends in Steel are doing really well, good job guys" and they all add you on Steam to be starstruck afterwards.

Maybe that's my agenda. Natural highs &#62; TF2.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:40:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471356</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Oh god he's posting here now. 

Do you not think I would not have made a critical post about UGC if I didn't care about it improving? If I didn't care I would have just completely dismissed the league, I never talk about things I don't care about. I wish I could be as paranoid as you about these subjects, enjoy speculating false opinions and misinterpreting statements the rest of your life, I will be sleeping easy.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:24:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471350</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from andyvich</i>
		<blockquote>We don't have any agendas :(
</blockquote>

Infinite was referring to Hildreth dood]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:39:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by give-me-your-caviar</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471346</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[We don't have any agendas :(

The truth of the story is that during recording, Wireplay's website was down. We'd have liked to have a quick look through stuff and be all like OH SHIT SMITZ IS IN A TEAM WITH A REALLY SHIT NAME, but we just didn't have that option.

<i>Quoted from Freakie</i>
		<blockquote>Thanks for the slander, Andyvich.</blockquote>

np]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:06:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toregant</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471313</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from inf-TP</i>
		<blockquote>It doesn't bother me, what got me interested in this thread is the criticism Jay received for focusing his highlander coverage on UGC. It's important to realize the source of the criticism has an agenda.</blockquote>

All criticism has an agenda. 

But Hildreth's agenda really wouldn't be to "get back at UGC for forum ban" because aside from him being the best thing on those forums what else does those forums have for him? It's probably because Wireplay has the same amount of top teams to watch as UGC does right now, if not more, and they're playing for something. Secondly he would probably like some coverage for his team especially as they're new.

Admittedly, I don't think Hildreth would put that much thought into a forum post but hey, you can go with paranoia, it works too.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:18:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by inf-TP</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471299</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It doesn't bother me, what got me interested in this thread is the criticism Jay received for focusing his highlander coverage on UGC. It's important to realize the source of the criticism has an agenda.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:40:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471296</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from inf-TP</i>
		<blockquote>
Glad you brought that one up as I might as well add this other post criticizing our pre season matches. All part of the master plan :)

http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/12177/1#post-193296</blockquote>

I can't believe this post/thread actually bothers you, because it's well-written, based on personal experience and explains the reasons nicely along with a suggested alternative. If it just said "playoffs are pointless and shit lol" then I could understand why you might think there's an anti-UGC agenda. I see you replied to the thread anyway so surely it's a non-issue?

You should read some of the comments posted here on etf2l if you want to see some truly inappropriate criticism :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:34:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by inf-TP</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Russian Guyovich</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Doesn't sound like the master plan for someone who created a HL team to play in UGC and then switched to Wireplay after requesting feedback from others:

<a href="http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11588-ugc-euro-worth-playing">http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11588-ugc-euro-worth-playing</a></blockquote>

Glad you brought that one up as I might as well add this other post criticizing our pre season matches. All part of the master plan :)

http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/12177/1#post-193296]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:21:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from inf-TP</i>
		<blockquote>Jay, nice job and keep up the good work. Don't let old bitter Hildy try to convince you otherwise. Wireplay, ETF2L all have their own dedicated news agencies. There's no reason UGC EU can't have a little something as well. You don't see ol' Hildy complaining to the EU TF2 news organizations about why they are not covering UGC, do you? He obviously has an agenda here, trying to get back at the league that gave him a voice in the highlander community. Ever since his much deserved ban on our forums hes gone around the tf2 sites trying to incite hate for UGC out of his anger. Unfortunately for him, it's not working :)</blockquote>

Doesn't sound like the master plan for someone who created a HL team to play in UGC and then switched to Wireplay after requesting feedback from others:

<a href="http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11588-ugc-euro-worth-playing">http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11588-ugc-euro-worth-playing</a>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:57:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by inf-TP</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27181/page-2/?recent=473463#post=471280</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Jay, nice job and keep up the good work. Don't let old bitter Hildy try to convince you otherwise. Wireplay, ETF2L all have their own dedicated news agencies. There's no reason UGC EU can't have a little something as well. You don't see ol' Hildy complaining to the EU TF2 news organizations about why they are not covering UGC, do you? He obviously has an agenda here, trying to get back at the league that gave him a voice in the highlander community. Ever since his much deserved ban on our forums hes gone around the tf2 sites trying to incite hate for UGC out of his anger. Unfortunately for him, it's not working :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:09:15 +0200</pubDate>
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