ETF2L – Latest activity in “american+european league”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “american+european league” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/ Reply by T-Mac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467813 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467813 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:19:41 +0200 Reply by EmilioEstevez https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467812 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467812 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:07:08 +0200 Reply by Apolloftw https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467803 Quoted from FreezeR

[...] false,4top taems NA invite + 4top teams EU invite = playing on lan finals they dont play online vs each other

The same thing could also happen for EU TF2 in Season 16 in ESEA (Need more teams to sign up for Season 15 for that to happen).]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467803 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:58:35 +0200 Reply by fishyard https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467793 Quoted from rytis

[...] so in 6v6 it matters nice logic

"Doesn't matter that much". My reasoning for this statement is that there's several classes in HL where high ping isn't all that dangerous and DM doesn't matter as much in HL either (In my opinion).]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467793 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:04:30 +0200 Reply by Koeitje https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467792 Quoted from exeL

[...] well, israelis play with 80-100 ping, and that works well.. there were israelis in prem, and there are still a few in prem level at the moment. (im not counting bar cuz hes a medic and its different...) good soldiers and demomen with 100 ping are out there - matnun, rtshock, tarkus (i guess...), and scouts aswell, but again - ping doesn't affect them as much. ya, it is harder with higher ping,and thats why don't think it should replace the normal leagues, but making a bigger league could be cool... edit: and what andee said! :D

The difference between 80-100ms and 100-200ms is huge. I play in Pugna quite often and I get about 120ms to Chicago. I can still play soldier and demo with that ping, but I aim does get quite a bit worse (even worse than it is on 20ms OLOWLOWL). The other pug server is in Dallas and I get about 140ms there. That little increase in ping makes such a huge difference that it almost becomes impossible to play for me. I can only image how bad it would be to play with higher ping than that.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467792 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:59:01 +0200 Reply by sorrowz https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467790 Quoted from exeL

[...] good point. still, a one night cup might work....

it cant work bcuz of the timezones... cup starts at 15:00 cest, its like night or something@'murica]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467790 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:37:32 +0200 Reply by .FreeZeR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467784 Quoted from quintosh

[...] esea csgo

false,4top taems NA invite + 4top teams EU invite = playing on lan finals they dont play online vs each other]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467784 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:13:14 +0200 Reply by Rychius https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-2/?recent=467813#post=467780 Quoted from fishyard

[...] Ping doesn't matter that much in HL. And America would've fucked everyone in HL if htey didn't have the ping handicap.

so in 6v6 it matters nice logic]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467780 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:10:10 +0200 Reply by ProtoType https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467779 Quoted from Permzilla

Nothing has ever stopped European teams from signing up to ESEA NA, or American teams signing up to ETF2L. The biggest problem is the timezones rather than the pings, either way the majority won't be able to play at the appropriate times and there won't be enough signups.

good point. still, a one night cup might work....]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467779 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:09:29 +0200 Reply by kunnyfunt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467777 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467777 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:05:45 +0200 Reply by Noeandee https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467766 Quoted from Permzilla

Nothing has ever stopped European teams from signing up to ESEA NA, or American teams signing up to ETF2L. The biggest problem is the timezones rather than the pings, either way the majority won't be able to play at the appropriate times and there won't be enough signups.

This. It's hard enough to arrange a match with people in your own timezone. Not to mention people that are still at work/school, when you wanna play a match ;)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467766 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:01:39 +0200 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467761 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467761 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:46:07 +0200 Reply by ProtoType https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467758 Quoted from fishyard

[...] Ping doesn't matter that much in HL. And America would've fucked everyone in HL if htey didn't have the ping handicap. [...] First of all Israeles do not have 100 ping (I have one on my team and he has 60-80 ping) and secondly Americans will have more than that. If they're from the east coast they will have at least 120 ping and those from the west coast will have around 200 ping and as W-LAN said, most NA teams have people from all over the country.

im an israeli demoman. so ya... 80-100 ping. i played with some americans who had around 100 ping. and about the all over country thing, idk... just throwing the idea out there... maybe a league is too big for this, maybe just make a cup? maybe esa could try it with the one night cups..? oh and like a year ago pings were higher... i used to play with 100-110 ping, and so did most israelis. that didn't stop the prem dudes at the time.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467758 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:38:01 +0200 Reply by fishyard https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467757 Quoted from quintosh

[...] esea csgo

Are you sure CS:GO esea plays online EU vs. NA ? If so that's my mistake.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467757 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:35:12 +0200 Reply by quintosh https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-27032/page-1/?recent=467813#post=467755 Quoted from fishyard

[...] Playing on 100 ping in a moba is very different from playing on 100 ping in a fps, especially a fast one like TF2. Tell me one fps that has leagues split over NA and EU. (you can't) Why do you think that is?

esea csgo]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=27032&post=467755 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:34:22 +0200