ETF2L – Latest activity in “4 years later its fixed”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “4 years later its fixed” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/ Reply by Setsul https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-9/?recent=461756#post=461756 Quoted from Godof

[...] Still, a rocket from far away (or with shit splash) deals only 28 damage at worst. If you're under 50 ,that's crucial if that rocket would deal 38 or 28.

Instead of 53% damage falloff and splash damage modifier up to 50% on the maximum distance you get +35% (mini crits), no damage falloff and only the splash modifier. Instead of 24 to 48 damage for maximum distance spam rockets you get 60 to 121 damage. MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE EH? Only the evil killing spawn doors are bad. Solid badlands window is has up- and downsides. The spawn camp fix (this is essentially the point of blocking explosive damage) is ok, it's not like spawncamping was that important (although it was fun).]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461756 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:04:11 +0200 Reply by Setlet https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461755 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461755 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:02:42 +0200 Reply by soxaz https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461754 Quoted from ondkaja

[...] don't get into situations where you will die if you take out the escape plan then. it's not a "bullshit death" if it's caused by your own incompetence.

so much this]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461754 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:32:03 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461752 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461752 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:18:35 +0200 Reply by Russian Guyovich https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461747 Quoted from AnimaL

[...]haha so thats whats going on... i was wondering if im really getting more and more bat shit every day :D

Although the reload animation is supposed to take the same time as it did before this patch, it seems like it takes longer to reload if you've shot an arrow, switched weapons and revert back to crossbow. Before the update, there would be a small delay when switching to crossbow and the reload animation kicking in, however because it was faster you would reload quicker than you do now. When you switch to an unloaded crossbow after this update, it feels like you have the same delay, and then the slower reload animation happens so it takes even longer to load than it does trying to shoot one arrow after the other. This is a nightmare when you're trying to defend yourself and haven't had a chance to reload since you shot an arrow earlier on. I might be completely wrong here, but it does feel different. I don't see why Valve had to fuck around with the Crossbow. It was a perfect sidegrade to syringes, and the trail animation looks good but there was nothing wrong with shooting an arrow instead of a needle. It was originally supposed to be a Medieval weapon afterall. Why all of a sudden do they give a shit about weapons/hats fitting the art style?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461747 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:35:41 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461739 Quoted from Ace

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned this yet, but isn't the crossbow reload time fucked up? Checked it roughly, and it seems to be up to about 2 seconds now. I kept on switching to medigun before the arrow was reloaded in all the games today, and I couldn't understand why.

haha so thats whats going on... i was wondering if im really getting more and more bat shit every day :D]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461739 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:29:30 +0200 Reply by Ond kaja https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461738 Quoted from Schmuse

[...] I mean it still decreases your travel time to health packs, but there's gonna be some bullshit deaths because of it~

don't get into situations where you will die if you take out the escape plan then. it's not a "bullshit death" if it's caused by your own incompetence.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461738 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:53:35 +0200 Reply by Koeitje https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461736 Quoted from kaidus

Marked for death removes falloff so all these calculations are fairly wrong.

Yep. I love 22 dmg (or something) pistol shots.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461736 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:31:59 +0200 Reply by Medic-kun https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461729 Quoted from Schmuse

[...] base splash 45 1.33*45=59.85 So the damage is actually around DOUBLE what you would normally take at long range. That's because mini crits remove the 50% damage falloff on top of adding 33% extra. It's a crippling nerf and the lingering effect, which they just copy pasted from GRU, just adds layers of bullshit. It kinda makes sense on GRU at least, because they wanted to stop heavies from running into people's faces with it, but it doesn't make any sense at all on the Escape Plan. I mean it still decreases your travel time to health packs, but there's gonna be some bullshit deaths because of it~

mark of death doesn't affect self splash damage, you can grab a medkit then rocket jump away]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461729 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 05:24:33 +0200 Reply by Schmuse https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461724 Quoted from Godof

[...] Still, a rocket from far away (or with shit splash) deals only 28 damage at worst. If you're under 50 ,that's crucial if that rocket would deal 38 or 28.

base splash 45 1.33*45=59.85 So the damage is actually around DOUBLE what you would normally take at long range. That's because mini crits remove the 50% damage falloff on top of adding 33% extra. It's a crippling nerf and the lingering effect, which they just copy pasted from GRU, just adds layers of bullshit. It kinda makes sense on GRU at least, because they wanted to stop heavies from running into people's faces with it, but it doesn't make any sense at all on the Escape Plan. I mean it still decreases your travel time to health packs, but there's gonna be some bullshit deaths because of it~]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461724 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:27:14 +0200 Reply by Smyther https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461723 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461723 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:23:41 +0200 Reply by mumu https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461722 Quoted from Ace

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned this yet, but isn't the crossbow reload time fucked up? Checked it roughly, and it seems to be up to about 2 seconds now. I kept on switching to medigun before the arrow was reloaded in all the games today, and I couldn't understand why.

Crusaders Crossbow * Smoothed out reload animation (DPS unchanged)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461722 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:20:11 +0200 Reply by kaidus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461721 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461721 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:07:26 +0200 Reply by Askjell https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461719 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461719 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:05:03 +0200 Reply by Smyther https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-26666/page-8/?recent=461756#post=461712 Quoted from Godof

[...] Still, a rocket from far away (or with shit splash) deals only 28 damage at worst. If you're under 50 ,that's crucial if that rocket would deal 38 or 28.

A direct rocket always does a minimum 48 damage. A blind medium range spam rocket easily has potential to do 70.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=26666&post=461712 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 03:18:44 +0200