ETF2L – Latest activity in “Server Plug-ins” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/ Reply by Snowdream https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445484 Quoted from Limp.
Please name few of these other games
inb4 the biggest list of anything you have ever seen]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445484 Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:38:19 +0200 Reply by LimputtaJa https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445482 Quoted from AnimaL
Maybe get a backbone and actually do something. MAKE a rule that 130fov now is the limit,
ask this here too Serious question for once: Why would anyone want to go up far as retardedtly hig fov as 120-130 range? And if you play constantly with 120+ fov you are an idiot tbh. Yes you can see bit more and feel you go bit faster Where did you get the idea that awesome +120 fov best thing ever othere games have this too! Please name few of these other games Thank you.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445482 Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:15:21 +0200 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445261 sign the petition... and wait...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445261 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:49:46 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445258 Quoted from fraac
Until Valve give us more features, an etf2l plugin by Anakin looks the best option. Would anyone's egos prevent that?
An etf2l plugin, yes. By anakin? I hope not.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445258 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:39:55 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445252 Quoted from fraac
Until Valve give us more features, an etf2l plugin by Anakin looks the best option. Would anyone's egos prevent that?
I can not speak for AnAkIn but ETF2L would have certain requirements, e.g. to know the source code to be absolutely sure what "our" plugin does, and considering tftrue is his project and his previous history with ETF2L I would completely understand, if he does not want to meet our terms.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445252 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:50:16 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445251 Quoted from AnimaL
How can you make sure everyone playing in league is not hacking?! Please read what I wrote about seeing a hacker and not banning him versus not seeing and not caring. I can't make it clearer, try to understand my point of view.
Well, that still does not answer my question how we are supposed to "just look at screenshots". Where do these screenshots we are supposed to "just look at" come from? Are you sugesting to make screenshot upload mandatory for all players?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445251 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:46:58 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445249 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445249 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:40:20 +0200 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445248 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445248 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:39:47 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445247 Quoted from AnimaL
Yes you can detect it, just look at screenshots..
How exactly would we get screenshots from every player and who is supposed to check them all?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445247 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:34:52 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445245 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445245 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:30:23 +0200 Reply by ryse https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445243 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445243 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:10:16 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-2/?recent=445484#post=445241 Quoted from ryse
what about an official etf2l plugin based on tftrue? doesn't esea has something like this for ages?
The long term plan is to get an official server plugin for ETF2L but that is not going to happen any time soon.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445241 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:01:49 +0200 Reply by ryse https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-1/?recent=445484#post=445240 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445240 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:00:36 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-1/?recent=445484#post=445238 Quoted from AnimaL
oh right, so lets allow plugins that vac ban players and not allow ways to change fov without vac ban sigh etf2l...
The reason why the plugin is not banned is because we have no means to enforce it, by the way. It is not allowed and a thorn in my side because of the way it works, it is merely tolerated. If you know a reliable way for us to detect if someone used an unsigned plugin to alter any client variable caps, please let me know and we can finally ban it. The reasons why forcing tftrue on all match servers is not feasable have been explained in this thread already. I've also explained why it is not just black and white in the second post in this thread. If you would relate to what has been said in here, we could maybe find a solution together.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=25186&post=445238 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:52:53 +0200 Reply by slate https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-25186/page-1/?recent=445484#post=445235 Quoted from Spike Himself
TFTrue is a server plugin, making it possible for etf2l to control its behavour (by adding tftrue settings to the etf2l configs). The only way to make that fair for everyone though is for etf2l to enforce usage of tftrue on *all* match servers. There is a problem with that: tftrue is an external plugin, not endorsed by etf2l, so none of the above really is an option right now (unless etf2l wants to endorse anakin's plugin or receive the source code of it and maintain it themselves, neither of which seem very likely at this point in time). Competitive games have to be balanced and fair for everyone - that is a fact you cannot alter. If you use a client side plugin or hack that increases your FOV, you are gaining an advantage over players that dont want to are are not capable of using such plugins or hacks. Don't forget that "don't want to" is a very fair argument so long as valve deems it cheating. When valve allows a higher FOV by default without the use of any game changing plugins or hacks, only then it becomes a personal preference for players and there is no longer any need for a discussion. Until then, there is also no point in having a discussion about plugins - it's simply unfair. Yes, I agree TF2 should have the option for a higher FOV, but that is entirely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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