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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Broder vs Crack Clan on Teamfortress.TV Thursday at 21:15 CET&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436329</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Rinta</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
To me it is actually harder to read the graph when it's turned like this. Flat graph (like the first one you made) looked maybe less fancy but more understandable. Just personal opinion though.</blockquote>

I actually find the 3D one easier to read. :P I mainly meant it was better because it had the real CET time on it rather than a big incomprehensible number.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:08:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nucl34r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436313</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from dox</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Amen.

Look, the truth is that in spite of TF2's popularity the competitive scene is kind of like Valve's red-headed step-child; papa wanted his son to grow up and continue his flourishing hat-making business but TF2comp still insists on picking up that ball and pursuing his dream of being a super star.

The reality seems to be that we are solely responsible for maintaining the development of our own scene in the face of this well-intentioned sabotage.  Of course we should all have our own tastes, styles and differing opinions!  However some things are good for <em>all</em> of competitive TF2 which is, after all, what unites us.</blockquote>

amen brother, amen]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:40:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436296</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CUBE</i>
		<blockquote>Can we not all just be happy that the viewers are getting an awesome experience?

...

TLDR: lets stop getting worked up about numbers, we should be happy with what amazing coverage all these different sites and languages are providing.</blockquote>

Amen.

Look, the truth is that in spite of TF2's popularity the competitive scene is kind of like Valve's red-headed step-child; papa wanted his son to grow up and continue his flourishing hat-making business but TF2comp still insists on picking up that ball and pursuing his dream of being a super star.

The reality seems to be that we are solely responsible for maintaining the development of our own scene in the face of this well-intentioned sabotage.  Of course we should all have our own tastes, styles and differing opinions!  However some things are good for <em>all</em> of competitive TF2 which is, after all, what unites us.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:19:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rinta</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>Better Version https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3205338/betterbrodercc.PNG</blockquote>
To me it is actually harder to read the graph when it's turned like this. Flat graph (like the first one you made) looked maybe less fancy but more understandable. Just personal opinion though.

Anyhow, awesome work on the stats, keep it up! 

And stop jelly about the front page, this looks so meh, at least the way you do it :(
I watched both streams yesterday (vtv and tf.tv) and they were both quite good. I seriously think a person who would see any of the 2 streams on twitch front page would keep watching them with an equal chance for both.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:51:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by atmo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436120</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from djc</i>
		<blockquote><em>*kicks sand in atmo's eyes*</em></blockquote>

You better watch out with provocative actions like that. If I were prompted into casting for VanillaTV, TFTV would be doomed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:41:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by POEcube</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436097</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Can we not all just be happy that the viewers are getting an awesome experience?

I mean http://i.imgur.com/mR21uAK.png shows that there were 8 different ways of watching the game last night. 

That's just insane options for a TF2 match, I could listen to a combination of 8 casters, 4 different casts in 3 different languages, team comms, STV or POV. 

I think (from a viewers perspective) having such a choice in where to watch is amazing, we don't need to get bogged down in viewer numbers and arguments about front page, just remember that this cartoon game we all love to play so much, is getting broader coverage options with people being motivated to improve the quality of production and advertisement (from whatever organisation).

TLDR: lets stop getting worked up about numbers, we should be happy with what amazing coverage all these different sites and languages are providing.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:35:20 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436091</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[That's awesome skyride, thank-you!!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:15:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436081</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Better Version https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3205338/betterbrodercc.PNG]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:38:41 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Juniorsatan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436080</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[nobody gives a shit about your sandbox beef. it's nice to have some competition as it makes the casts better naturally (live stats, outline wallhack, instant upload of vods etc.). At the end of the day, most people will favour one stream over another simply because of which commentators they like most.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:28:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AcidReniX</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[it's super effective]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:14:23 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Aye Doc</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436077</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<em>*kicks sand in atmo's eyes*</em>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:11:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Aye Doc</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436076</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[i don't know why everyone has to act like they're 5 years old whenever this topic comes up but hey ~_____~]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:11:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-4/?recent=436329#post=436073</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Oh, popcorn time!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:59:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AcidReniX</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>and TFTV EU is bassically a seperate org, but meh. </blockquote>

lol, a swing and a miss :) nice try though!

I'd say more, but I'm giggling too much :DD]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:58:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TviQ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24553/page-3/?recent=436329#post=436071</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>So viewership stats!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3205338/brodervsccviewers.PNG

 This graph is a bit shit due to it having weird numbers on the bottom, but basically start of the graph is about 8:30pm CET and the end is about 11:00pm CET. Prizes for anyone who can guess when when VanillaTV got frontpaged on Twitch.

 Hopefully I can learn to use something better than Excel (or at the very least use Excel properly) and make this sort of thing more regularly.</blockquote>
shit i need to get more viewers, need.. to.. stop.. being.. mean.. to everyone.. lol as if]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:43:36 +0100</pubDate>
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