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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;VanillaTF2 Streams&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by trath</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434980</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Well for a start, I actually check if people stream TF2 before adding them (see: CRS that I deleted last night after a couple of complaints). Secondly, at peak times TF.TV has like 3x the number of streams. Not everyone that should be on the list is going to come and give you a nice PM asking to have their stream added.</blockquote>

I see your name on the right side &#62;&#62;&#62; 
got excited to see how Skyride plays TF2. It was dota :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:22:00 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kaneco</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434964</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[just create a common stream list for both sites, tf.tv and vanilla.

Personally I watch streams on tf.tv because I thinks its more user friendly and usually streams are in orden or viewers and more complete. But you should still have it synched accross sites, after all the list is on reddit and some other sites like etf2l as well]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:43:54 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lexsoor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434960</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Rinta</i>
		<blockquote>
"sorry, OUR stream list is now managed by SOMEONE ELSE, go ask THEM to add your stream to OUR website"...</blockquote>
so basically what etf2l has to say?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:15:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rinta</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434936</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It would definitely be nice to have the fullest possible lists of streams on both tftv and vtf2, but can't they both just pull lists from one another and fill the gaps automatically?

Some people only read vtf2 and will contact vtf2 admins to add their streams, some are only visiting tftv and will contact tftv staff, it would be strange to tell any of them "sorry, OUR stream list is now managed by SOMEONE ELSE, go ask THEM to add your stream to OUR website"...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:45:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434929</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Can you add my scout Xenomy? Thanks. http://www.twitch.tv/xenomy</blockquote>

Added!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:44:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434924</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Trell</i>
		<blockquote>Also; re a 'massive' amount of hassle; people query me, Byte or anyone else with access and we add them to the streamer list for vtf2, unless im missing something :P</blockquote>

Well for a start, I actually check if people stream TF2 before adding them (see: CRS that I deleted last night after a couple of complaints). Secondly, at peak times TF.TV has like 3x the number of streams. Not everyone that should be on the list is going to come and give you a nice PM asking to have their stream added.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 09:35:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434918</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Trell</i>
		<blockquote>Also; re a 'massive' amount of hassle; people query me, Byte or anyone else with access and we add them to the streamer list for vtf2, unless im missing something :P</blockquote>

Can you add my scout Xenomy? Thanks. http://www.twitch.tv/xenomy]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:12:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Oxy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-2/?recent=434980#post=434917</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fallen</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
the pig pub streamers
</blockquote>

them pig pub streamers]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:45:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GFMTrell</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434915</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Also; re a 'massive' amount of hassle; people query me, Byte or anyone else with access and we add them to the streamer list for vtf2, unless im missing something :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:19:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by atmo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434913</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[everybody is nice and friendly on a happy and relaxed friday night]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:45:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GFMTrell</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434912</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from lexs</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
omg hidden agenda by arx! 
vanillatf2 isnt part of etf2l nor is teamfortresstv there is no reason why we cant have a normal discussion about a change</blockquote>

OMG HIDDEN AGENDA DIDNT YOU JUST STREAM FOR TF.TV IN THE BATTLE OF VIEWERS 2013

Just in case it isn't clear enough [/sarcasm]]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:18:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by beta</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434908</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from lexs</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
omg hidden agenda by arx! 
vanillatf2 isnt part of etf2l nor is teamfortresstv there is no reason why we cant have a normal discussion about a change</blockquote>

Now this did make smile,

Do you think Arx has a hidden agenda? I guess his massive posts talking about everthing under the sun must show this! Though i know his hidden agenda for tonight was to go swimming after eating nandos with me....the swine!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 01:24:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434907</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Use tf.tv list, it's what I use anyway because it's more comprehensive.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 01:04:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lexsoor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434905</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from AcidReniX</i>
		<blockquote>
Exactly what everyone else is saying. Hidden agenda. Leave it as it is thanks.</blockquote>
omg hidden agenda by arx! 
vanillatf2 isnt part of etf2l nor is teamfortresstv there is no reason why we cant have a normal discussion about a change]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:39:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-24507/page-1/?recent=434980#post=434900</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It's actually mostly for that. Handling the stream list is a surprisingly large amount of hassle (that I don't mind doing if people really do want VTF2 to maintain it's own stream list).

Thing is, if you look at TF.TV they have a LOT of streams VTF2 doesn't and it'd be daft to sit and copy them regularly. When I started it in the first place, "what's wrong with teamfortress.tv" was a pretty widely held opinion too.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:58:43 +0100</pubDate>
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