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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;CEVO bans sandman will ETF2L follow?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Wlv</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27953</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[There will be an official news post made at some point tonight / tomorrow]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:39:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GeaR</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27948</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[As it seems, the ESL will also ban the sandman.

Should "The Sandman" be allowed in every ESL match?
Yes, sure. 15% (17)
No, stay away.  68% (75)
Lets do Sandmanlimit 1. 17% (19)
I do not care. 0% (0)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:25:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Albert</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27947</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ow and Evil is well hard, he fights terrorists at lan.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:22:31 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gniedler</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27946</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[she's got some huge dogs there]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:19:09 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Albert</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27911</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[LOLSTICKIES]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:01:40 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Evil</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27909</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://clan-wotr.com/byte.gif]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:53:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-6/?recent=27953#post=27908</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Bash you have to see what evil looks like, and then u shall know why :x

As for the sandman thing

1stly - Care.com yes its annoying yes it's ott and yes it should be altered however..........

2ndly - the rule should be if both teams agree on it then so be it, this rule can't be used with the demoman because there is no loss in the character's capabilities i.e. 2 demoman limit, u lose a soldier for a demoman thats still a advantage, where as sandman the scout can't double jump to places..... unless he uses force of nature of course. And also when someone is boinked he can be "Protected" if his team are any good at that. So its not a clear cut advantage, hence should be decided via the two teams playing.

3rdly Yes Riemu it's a "land slide" it would be for u being a fat f**k heavy, as thats what it hurts the most the heavy in terms of weapon usage/being most vunerable to dying... i wouldn't go that far in saying its totally unfair but defo shouldn't be allowed unless both clans agreed :&#62;

Bring on the soldier update : &#62;

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:52:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by 00jk00</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I don't think its as terrible as people are making out, but I still think that its ill suited to TF2, and the style of the game as a whole. It shouldn't be allowed in leagues.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:47:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mitch</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27901</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ban the Sandman at ETF2L because it's really inbalanced and ruining the Gameplay.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:30:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bash</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27900</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Lady GaGa is an androgynous horceface, what the hell is wrong with you.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:26:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by atreides</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27899</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well roared, lion! Fanboyrobots will support you soon with more posts like "I don't like, ban".

xncc: It's exactly the same like medic's decision between kritzkrieg and medigun:
There are maps out where immortality is mostly better (i.e. maps with setup time) and pushmaps where it's equalised. Personally, I think doublejump is better on more situations, regarding all.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:24:56 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SEB</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27896</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ban mick]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Evil</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27895</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Lady GaGa is hawt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rQblP5i47w]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:20:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mick-</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27890</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ban this shit ASAP ,and ban the noobs who support the Sandman from every leagues too , thx . starting by  that nova123456 guy :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:08:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by .nudel</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-2237/page-5/?recent=27953#post=27887</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Like some people said, its much Luck. if you are going to cap the 5th point, a Scout just can Spam the Ball inside, hoping to hit someone, if you hit the Medic, you won it.
The weapon is very unfair, and thats a Scout saying. Besides that, It really changes much on the Gameplay as a Scout.
But i think the real Problem is, that you know what yo uare going to lose with the Sandman - the Doublejump. You know, in which maps you need the Doublejump and on which one not. Besides, like the Kritzkrieg takes away the invulnerability, you dont always know if its better or not. You can kill the whole enemy team with it- If the enemy Medic Ubers the normal one, you lose all. That risk isnt at the Sandman.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:02:07 +0100</pubDate>
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