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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Insane Dutch Killers MGE Server, No Stats&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-2/?recent=400632#post=400632</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kalhó</i>
		<blockquote>

@Biohazard NE server is always empty.</blockquote>

We have 2 MGE servers:

81.19.221.204:27019     v4
81.19.221.204:27026     v7

One of which is often empty, the other is normally pretty full.  Both have 6 hour map reloads.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:50:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kalho</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400585</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Drackk</i>
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MGE points =/= skill

i've played against plenty of people that when they start losing or are just about to lose, join spectate so they dont lose any points. 

the points are literally just a bunch of numbers to give an even more competitive side to MGE, however because of the points implemented, people adapt really frustrating and "scumbag"-ey playstyles, such as groundspamming when people just spawn, and using the shotgun when someone rocket jumps so they just stop dead in their tracks whilst jumping.

having no stats or points means that you can't judge someone based on how many points they have;</blockquote>

Ok, no one denies that some care to much about the points, but overall MGE points == skill.
If i wanna play someone stronger, i won't play a guy with 1700, but instead someone with +2000.

And the thing is there are better players on server with stats. It may not be perfect, but overall i think points are better.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:52:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Drack1993</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400581</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kalhó</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

But makes it easier to search for better opponents.</blockquote>

MGE points =/= skill

i've played against plenty of people that when they start losing or are just about to lose, join spectate so they dont lose any points. 

the points are literally just a bunch of numbers to give an even more competitive side to MGE, however because of the points implemented, people adapt really frustrating and "scumbag"-ey playstyles, such as groundspamming when people just spawn, and using the shotgun when someone rocket jumps so they just stop dead in their tracks whilst jumping.

having no stats or points means that you can't judge someone based on how many points they have;

<i>Quoted from Biohazard</i>
		<blockquote>think of it as a place where you will not know what to except of your enemy and will always do your best.</blockquote>





i shall definitely be joining the new server, thanks Biohazard!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:42:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kalho</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400575</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[@Ash Not a bad ideia, but takes to much work.

@Biohazard NE server is always empty. LZ one, unfortunately, is THE mge server.
And imo no stats isn't an unique alternative. Right now, there are more than enough mge servers, with stats and withouth them.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by b10h4z4rd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400558</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What about NervousEnergy MGE? As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) that is THE mge server still and was for a long time. 

I thought a nice alternative is to have a server that is different, not having another copy of the same thing over and over. IDK server is an alternative in 3 ways:
- fall dmg enabled
- no stats
- v7 of the map

If that is not alternative, then I don't know what is. I appreciate your feedback, but the bottom line is that this server is meant to be unique in such way. It is not "lame", it is just a feature which differs us from other mge server providers. Consider it as a place where you can warm up with a friend without some random player interrupting. At the same time, think of it as a place where you will not know what to except of your enemy and will always do your best.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:34:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ashnazg</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400543</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kalhó</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

tbh there aren't. I hate the lethal zone server and that is the only one with points that people go to. It would be good to have a nice alternative.</blockquote>

Go to LZ MGE, add good people, enjoy playing on no-points-servers. I'd prefer a 'private' MGE session over some public session with randoms interfering any day.

Edit: Esp if you can rage at them in mumble!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:24:33 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kalho</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400542</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Biohazard</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

There is plenty of other servers you can play on.</blockquote>

tbh there aren't. I hate the lethal zone server and that is the only one with points that people go to. It would be good to have a nice alternative.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:22:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by b10h4z4rd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400442</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kalhó</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

But makes it easier to search for better opponents.</blockquote>

There is plenty of other servers you can play on.

No, there aren't any class limits. I thought enforcing vanilla was just about good enough.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:30:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by seve</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Link!</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

wut?

it's mge not dm</blockquote>

He probably wanted to know if other classes than demo/soli/sc are allowed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:27:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nathancounye</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from nTraum</i>
		<blockquote>Sounds good. Class limits?</blockquote>

wut?

it's mge not dm]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:01:04 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Crizzl</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kalhó</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

But makes it easier to search for better opponents.</blockquote>

As well as making people play like complete retards.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:23:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kalho</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Drackk</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

MGE Points mean nothing.</blockquote>

But makes it easier to search for better opponents.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:16:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Drack1993</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kalhó</i>
		<blockquote>No points is lame.</blockquote>

MGE Points mean nothing.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:06:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Juniorsatan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400394</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Sounds good. Class limits?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:31:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kalho</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22272/page-1/?recent=400632#post=400392</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[No points is lame.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:22:28 +0200</pubDate>
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