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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;ESEA in Europe?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Coleman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479680</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I'd sponsor ur team any day mate &#60;3 it has Wai in it right? :p

Cheers

Byte</blockquote>

Wai said if you pay for our LAN you've got a deal!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:59:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479671</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from slate</i>
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aren't there gonna be playoffs or something?</blockquote>

yep top 4 still to re-play

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:19:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479670</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Coleman</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Notice to all Div 6/5/4/3/2 and 1 Teams. Byte Gaming is now offering full sponsorship. Please add Byte for details.</blockquote>

I'd sponsor ur team any day mate &#60;3 it has Wai in it right? :p

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:17:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by slate</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479664</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from WARHURYEAH</i>
		<blockquote>Our season is over and I didn't find it that bad, the ruleset was pretty nice and I don't mind it with the plugin, I hate the esea client, website and The fact I have to pay.

It certainly wasn't terrible.</blockquote>

aren't there gonna be playoffs or something?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 13:20:46 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by huhas</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479663</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[added u byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 13:05:53 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Coleman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479662</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote> I'd pay for a whole team (div1 or below) next season (maybe 2 teams) if they wanted.

If anyone is interested let me know.


Cheers

Byte</blockquote>

Notice to all Div 6/5/4/3/2 and 1 Teams. Byte Gaming is now offering full sponsorship. Please add Byte for details.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 13:03:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tarek006</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479658</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>The website is as easy to navigate as it is to push cp1 on cp_obscure_final.</blockquote>

big_lol

but yeah the website is aids.

also imo the "merc rule" is shit as well, especially if you have to play 2 leagues (etf2l+esea), which every (?) team did.
its really hard to play 2-3 officials per week anyways and if you can not use a merc any time its really hard to play 2 leagues, thats why a few teams dropped out of esea as well i would say.
so if esea is alive for next season, they should alow people to use at least 1merc.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:41:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479655</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ruleset was okay, tedious that it was only 1 map tbh, made it a chore more so than enjoyment. Payment was no issue esp as its a measly 6 euros? or w/e

What was utter aids though, was one of the rules where by, we had played wonkas but lost, yet they folded, so teams who had not played them got a default win and it counts :D

Quite a shit ruling, the client is dog shit, ESEA trying to be like Apple i.e Bespoke and niche but doing it 100% worse. The website is as easy to navigate as it is to push cp1 on cp_obscure_final. But overall would enter again, also I'd pay for a whole team (div1 or below) next season (maybe 2 teams) if they wanted.

If anyone is interested let me know.

[Edit: forgot to mention Sonny did a fantastic job considering the very strict ruleset he has to follow so kudos to him for assisting us all the way]

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:15:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WARHURYEAH</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479654</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Our season is over and I didn't find it that bad, the ruleset was pretty nice and I don't mind it with the plugin, I hate the esea client, website and The fact I have to pay.

It certainly wasn't terrible.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:47:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The_Burger</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-10/?recent=479680#post=479596</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[That thread...Pfah. Whatever happened to good old fashioned sportsmanship ?

It might be a paying league, but they take themselves a bit too seriously.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 02:27:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ond kaja</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-9/?recent=479680#post=477861</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Mast</i>
		<blockquote>With a statement like that Angel probably works for ESEA and wants to blame it on someone else</blockquote>

no]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:19:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by themast</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-9/?recent=479680#post=477857</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[With a statement like that Angel probably works for ESEA and wants to blame it on someone else]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:01:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cuttlefish</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-9/?recent=479680#post=477856</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Angel</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Personally, I don't think that this crash - a failure of whole abstract League, which has worked successfully for many years. The only reason - it's a terrible job of a specific admin, named Sonny Black. He doesn't checked the servers (only 3?), scheduler and anti-cheat software <strong>before</strong> start of the event. People lost their time &#38; money, ESEA lost reputation at EU TF2 scene.

gj sonny, keep your work up</blockquote>

How is it Sonny's fault that only 3 servers were provided?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:56:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Buffalo Bill</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-9/?recent=479680#post=477852</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Angel</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Personally, I don't think that this crash - a failure of whole abstract League, which has worked successfully for many years. The only reason - it's a terrible job of a specific admin, named Sonny Black. He doesn't checked the servers (only 3?), scheduler and anti-cheat software <strong>before</strong> start of the event. People lost their time &#38; money, ESEA lost reputation at EU TF2 scene.

gj sonny, keep your work up</blockquote>

Can you stop spouting shit and stop blaming admins for things that aren't their fault?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:17:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by IceRedFox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-22213/page-9/?recent=479680#post=477845</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Russian Guyovich</i>
		<blockquote>Must be some amazing crack cocaine in Russia</blockquote>

He is always high, have you noticed it only now? :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:04:55 +0100</pubDate>
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