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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

It works, but it'll render out a shitload quicker. If you're editing say a 400fps export with frame blending, your hard needs to read nearly a gigabyte of files just to create a single second of video. Consider that's going to take 8-15secs on the average hard drive, that causes a big performance issue.

Even if its 30fps, that's still ~70MB/sec which is right on the line of typical maximum copy speed of a hard drive.</blockquote>

Yeah the rendering takes a while, but then I don't ever use frame blending (because I like to watch my own videos afterwards) and also, rendering is slow <em>anyway</em>. An extra few minutes isn't going to kill anyone, I'm not fussed about it.

Anyway, you would render uncompressed with vdub before editing then? Surely that adds a whole lot more time than it saves?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:17:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bean</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Leftism</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I <em>think</em> you can only record to .tga using the Source Engine's build in movie making feature.</blockquote>

You can use jpeg in the startmovie parameters, and jpeg_quality, theres some obvious compression visible, but for a full 30mins I can live with it.

As skyride says, I tried 30fps and tgas once. Oh boy..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 09:56:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

What do you mean? I've not ever run into any issues with this.</blockquote>

It works, but it'll render out a shitload quicker. If you're editing say a 400fps export with frame blending, your hard needs to read nearly a gigabyte of files just to create a single second of video. Consider that's going to take 8-15secs on the average hard drive, that causes a big performance issue.

Even if its 30fps, that's still ~70MB/sec which is right on the line of typical maximum copy speed of a hard drive.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:12:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Leftism</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21751/page-2/?recent=393871#post=393664</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from bean</i>
		<blockquote>Do you want to convert an entire demo? e.g. ~30mins of footage? If so I would record to jpegs and not tgas.</blockquote>

I <em>think</em> you can only record to .tga using the Source Engine's build in movie making feature.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:36:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tteh-t</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21751/page-2/?recent=393871#post=393645</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Leftism</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I don't see it.

All I see is the same way everyone here usually does it but instead of making a tonne of .tga files it makes a single .avi

iirc, isn't this method unreliable in comparison to the .tga method? I remember trying before replays came out and had to record the same 20 second clip five times because image in the avi was fucked up.</blockquote>
That might be the case, but I'm assuming that you'd want to edit the video anyway as demos are what the are. 
And also, that is the basic guide. Using recording tools might be a good idea, however.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:25:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bean</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Do you want to convert an entire demo? e.g. ~30mins of footage? If so I would record to jpegs and not tgas.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:54:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Leftism</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from tteh-t</i>
		<blockquote>https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Demo_Video_Creation

If someone is still wondering, here's the basic way to handle demos. It also includes a way to export movies directly to the AVI format.</blockquote>

I don't see it.

All I see is the same way everyone here usually does it but instead of making a tonne of .tga files it makes a single .avi

iirc, isn't this method unreliable in comparison to the .tga method? I remember trying before replays came out and had to record the same 20 second clip five times because image in the avi was fucked up.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:23:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tteh-t</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Demo_Video_Creation

If someone is still wondering, here's the basic way to handle demos. It also includes a way to export movies directly to the AVI format.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:17:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Except this is a horrifically bad idea because you go from being pretty badly hard drive limited to "I might as well be doing this on a pentium 3 for all the difference it would make"-hard drive limited.</blockquote>

What do you mean? I've not ever run into any issues with this.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:13:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>Vegas can import them as a sequence of images just like vdub does. It will appear in your timeline like any other video.

http://i.imgur.com/11VhO.jpg</blockquote>

Except this is a horrifically bad idea because you go from being pretty badly hard drive limited to "I might as well be doing this on a pentium 3 for all the difference it would make"-hard drive limited.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:45:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21751/page-1/?recent=393871#post=393534</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Vegas can import them as a sequence of images just like vdub does. It will appear in your timeline like any other video.

http://i.imgur.com/11VhO.jpg]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:20:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Wiper</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Surely you'd want to edit <em>before</em> compressing? That's what I do anyway; load tga's in vegas, edit, render uncompressed, use vdub to compress, upload.</blockquote>

Wouw, load all of the .tga's in Vegas? How is that possible, editing thousands of individual image files? Can Vegas handle that? Anyways i just compress them with Vdub and then edit that file i get out of it, then render and upload.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:17:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Wiper</i>
		<blockquote>Save as AVI, and that file will be the one you wanna edit in Vegas or whatever, THEN upload (the raw file after VirtualDub is pretty huge too)</blockquote>

Surely you'd want to edit <em>before</em> compressing? That's what I do anyway; load tga's in vegas, edit, render uncompressed, use vdub to compress, upload.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:51:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Wiper</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Here is the first part of SonofDadSC's moviemaking tutorial, giving you the basics of recording. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIK4bVzFeFw&#38;feature=plcp

Or just use the following console commands while having your demo loaded at whatever tick you wanna start your recording at.

Programmes to download: VirtualDub, Lagarith Lossless Video Codec

(run game in video-fitting resolution such as 1280x720)
sv_cheats 1
host_framerate 60
startmovie NAME raw
endmovie

Now, you've created a bunch of .tga images in your /tf/ folder, so you can exit TF2.
Open up VirtualDub and open the first of the .tga's that you crated, called NAME0000. It will automaticly put the rest of the .tga's with same name in there aswell. Remember to go to audio and select "audio from other file", and go to Video and select Frame Rate, put it to the same as you recorded with in-game (60) and select Lagarith Lossless Video Codec under Compression.

Save as AVI, and that file will be the one you wanna edit in Vegas or whatever, THEN upload (the raw file after VirtualDub is pretty huge too)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:08:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Captainhax</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Easier than the .tga thing just use the startmovie nameofthemovie h264. You'll get a nice .avi file after that.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:41:26 +0200</pubDate>
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