ETF2L – Latest activity in “[Top teams] What about spectating real time instead of stv?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/ Reply by AcidReniX https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=365742 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=365742 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:32:51 +0100 Reply by Enef https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=363694 Quoted from dodgydogman
Surely if you cast games with 0 delay, people cant watch the stv and listen to mumble audio, and also the other team could stream snipe to find out push directions, uber count and medigun, classes etc...
That's why you would put the delay on the stream, which you can do with all the streaming services.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=363694 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:02:44 +0100 Reply by dodgydogman https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=363689 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=363689 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:48:16 +0100 Reply by Dr-Gimpfen https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=363468 tv_allow_camera_man Allows spectator clients on game server to become SourceTV camera men (master only) this + 90s delayed mumble would be so great for the stv spectators :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=363468 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:08:59 +0100 Reply by POEcube https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=363028 Quoted from Comedian
but i do feel like skype has significantly higher audio quality compared to skype
]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=363028 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:14:47 +0100 Reply by Nucl34r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=363021 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=363021 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:31:43 +0100 Reply by E-thug https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=363005 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=363005 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:17:49 +0100 Reply by quadua https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=362999 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362999 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 06:32:45 +0100 Reply by atmo https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=362995 Quoted from Comedian
mumble audio quality is lower than skype audio quality, its maximum bitrate is about 96kbit.
many professionally produced podcasts use 80 kbps. 96 kbps is plenty for spoken word.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362995 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:26:33 +0100 Reply by Aveng https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=362987 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362987 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:16:46 +0100 Reply by frymaster https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=362982 Quoted from Comedian
mumble audio quality is lower than skype audio quality, its maximum bitrate is about 96kbit. as for #2, my pants have been creamed
a) codec bitrate isn't the be-all and end-all, since it depends on the codec used b) in any case, the high-bandwidth codec (SILK) used in skype tops out at 40kbits/s c) the implementation is key. TF2 in-game voice is also SILK, as of last April. Anyone here honestly think the in-game tf2 speech is comparable to skype?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362982 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:46:08 +0100 Reply by Admirable https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=362964 Quoted from Miek
For 1: Not sure what this is fixing, I don't think there's any issues with Mumble's quality or delay? If it switched to audio only on the stream, I probably wouldn't watch anymore since I usually can't play the stream without loads of buffering. It would also be annoying to have all the game audio from the stream while watching in stv. For 2: Makes sense, so I made a plugin: http://etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20108/ :>
Nice!]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362964 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:24:50 +0100 Reply by Nucl34r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-4/?recent=365742#post=362944 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362944 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:11:35 +0100 Reply by mikechml https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-3/?recent=365742#post=362939 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362939 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:55:47 +0100 Reply by Darkdwarf https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20094/page-3/?recent=365742#post=362928 Quoted from Comedian
[...] assuming something is perfect is a good way to stop trying to improve and innovate. as for skeej's point, yes, its really hard to spectate a game with 12 people, which is why i think spectating from the server would be a huge improvement over spectating from STV. I feel that my best camerawork was done on the i43 finals, when we were casting live from the server instead of from the STV. something that should be be mentioned as well, is that casting from the server would require us to use a diffrent HUD or rework the vanillaHUD since it uses custom assets which are blocked by SV_pure, and i dont think we'd want to have sv_pure off
Don't drop the VanillaHUD, it's pure awesomeness.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=20094&post=362928 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:31:53 +0100