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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;ESH CUP TONIGHT&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-3/?recent=346765#post=346765</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[If only you REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED would have signed up, we wouldn't have to be rolled 5-0 against a team that doesn't even bring soldiers to mid. Thanks guys! :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:05:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Crasp</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-3/?recent=346765#post=346759</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from GhostjAAH `</i>
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gravel or gully first?</blockquote>

Gully first, then badlands and snakewater on thursday, then bo3 for the rest. If in doubt, check the match pages.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:49:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kevinke</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-3/?recent=346765#post=346756</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Crasp</i>
		<blockquote>http://www.esportsheaven.net/?page=tournament&#38;action=view&#38;tournament_id=1378&#38;content_id=4967

Brackets!

A little bird tells me infused vs manneke piss will be on VanillaTV tonight.

If two teams are supposed to play one another in the next round on Thursday and have nothing better to do tonight, I have no problem with them playing that match as long as they let me know.

:)</blockquote>
gravel or gully first?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:39:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Crasp</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-3/?recent=346765#post=346754</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.esportsheaven.net/?page=tournament&#38;action=view&#38;tournament_id=1378&#38;content_id=4967

Brackets!

A little bird tells me infused vs manneke piss will be on VanillaTV tonight.

If two teams are supposed to play one another in the next round on Thursday and have nothing better to do tonight, I have no problem with them playing that match as long as they let me know.

:)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:36:44 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atmo</i>
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well you learn more from losing than winning, right?</blockquote>
yes]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:35:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by atmo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-3/?recent=346765#post=346751</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Linus</i>
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A prem team would destroy a div2 team just as hard as a div5 team - so whats the point really? in fact a prem team would destroy most teams in current div1 5-0 quite easily. 

when we were in div5, we used to take part in as many cups like this as possible to have a chance to play against people much higher than us(because obviously it would be a waste of time for them to play pcws against us).

and why? Well, to improve, to see what they do differently, and try to copy it.</blockquote>

well you learn more from losing than winning, right?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:31:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Daleth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-3/?recent=346765#post=346749</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Can merc for this as soldier if needed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:22:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by mosepose</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346745</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[if someone needs a medic, i could merc.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:00:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Linus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346742</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
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Ok, I'll try to answer on this XDDD
Maybe because they have no chance to win it???
That will be just a waste of time.
make this cup only for 16 teams, so only prem - 2div teams will participate</blockquote>

A prem team would destroy a div2 team just as hard as a div5 team - so whats the point really? in fact a prem team would destroy most teams in current div1 5-0 quite easily. 

when we were in div5, we used to take part in as many cups like this as possible to have a chance to play against people much higher than us(because obviously it would be a waste of time for them to play pcws against us).

and why? Well, to improve, to see what they do differently, and try to copy it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:48:21 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346736</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Ok, I'll try to answer on this XDDD
Maybe because they have no chance to win it???
That will be just a waste of time.
make this cup only for 16 teams, so only prem - 2div teams will participate</blockquote>

Your attitude is broken. Please fix it.
))]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:32:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346733</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[able to merc for mid/+ team as a soldier, can go other class aswell]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:25:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346731</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Oxy</i>
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Yawn. I've never understood attitudes like this. Surely the purpose of a game is to have fun as well as be competitive. I'll enter my team into any cups/tournaments possible whenever possible (we are only ~div 4). Ideally I would like to get infused.tt first round... it would be a chance to play one of the best teams in the world?!? Who wouldn't want that! Of course we would get rolled but it would be a one-off opportunity to see where their play differs from us and gives us a chance to improve.
Failing that give us Reditio, we'll always take the chance to squash them &#60;3 (just kidding spike).</blockquote>

I can agree that some teams would like to participate just to play versus top team, like Infused.Tt in your case, but still most of the teams won't sign up coz they realise that will be beaten in the first round and it's not fun for them]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:18:53 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346729</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from rtan</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

theres only like 4 or 5 teams who can win it so your point isnt really valid.</blockquote>
everything can happen :&#62;
Maybe some teams still believe in a miracle and are going to sign up :&#62;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:14:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Oxy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346728</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Ok, I'll try to answer on this XDDD
Maybe because they have no chance to win it???
That will be just a waste of time.
make this cup only for 16 teams, so only prem - 2div teams will participate</blockquote>

Yawn. I've never understood attitudes like this. Surely the purpose of a game is to have fun as well as be competitive. I'll enter my team into any cups/tournaments possible whenever possible (we are only ~div 4). Ideally I would like to get infused.tt first round... it would be a chance to play one of the best teams in the world?!? Who wouldn't want that! Of course we would get rolled but it would be a one-off opportunity to see where their play differs from us and gives us a chance to improve.
Failing that give us Reditio, we'll always take the chance to squash them &#60;3 (just kidding spike).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:13:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by r7an</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19231/page-2/?recent=346765#post=346727</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Ok, I'll try to answer on this XDDD
Maybe because they have no chance to win it???
That will be just a waste of time.
make this cup only for 16 teams, so only prem - 2div teams will participate</blockquote>

theres only like 4 or 5 teams who can win it so your point isnt really valid.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:12:08 +0100</pubDate>
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