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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Hildreth</i>
		<blockquote>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:41:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-17282/page-3/?recent=313449#post=313447</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spira</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Then uninstall the game and leave forever. Simple.</blockquote>

baited
why anyone would actually complain about this is beyond me...


And


		<blockquote>Q. Won’t going Free to Play mean more griefers and cheaters? 

If a new player on a Free account upgrades to a premium account and indicates that you were their most helpful friend, you will receive a wearable item. Helping new users via the Coaching feature is a great way to meet new players and help them out!</blockquote>

Great answer]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:12:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spira</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from alfa</i>
		<blockquote>remember when tf2 was fun</blockquote>

Then uninstall the game and leave forever. Simple.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:08:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[remember when tf2 was fun]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:56:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gideon</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Le meme arrows</i>
		<blockquote>Just all quit TF2 and come play Tribes: Vengeance. No noobs, no hats, no OP unlocks and the best multiplayer action you'll ever get.</blockquote>

F0ck yeah, T:V is awesome. Jizzed my pants after first airshot i did.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:38:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by krap92</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Just all quit TF2 and come play Tribes: Vengeance. No noobs, no hats, no OP unlocks and the best multiplayer action you'll ever get.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:30:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from KrullkrigareN^</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Well, LoL is working out quite well, isn't it? Not that I play it, but alot of people do. And I don't see any problem with it.

Fuck The Police</blockquote>

LoL is doing pretty well as a game, but the competitive scene is a bit iffy for main 2 reasons, 1) There's literally not a spectator mode at all (its in the works) and 2) it's generally agreed that it has a much lower skill ceiling that HoN. However neither of these are really to do with it being an F2P game, I think that in a lot of respects is actually helping it.

To be honest though, this update.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Whatever, I don't see how it's going to kill or help TF2. If TF2 dies, it'll be because a lot of people spent a lot of time whining without getting anything constructive done, or you know, even playing the game for that matter, I doubt this will even factor into the equation.

Just play dudes, I think it's clear TF2 is over the hill, just chill out and enjoy it for what it is.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:23:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by _void</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[f2p = more noobs, more cheaters, more money for valve, more noobs to scam, more profits for pr0 traders, and a superbe hat for old playerd ( rofl )

also this wide range of new weapons will certainly bump the debate about unlocks in league.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:21:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by joaof19</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ghostface</i>
		<blockquote>Can't believe I paid 10 euros for this shit.</blockquote>

I paid 30 :D

Other than that, everything has been said. I can understand it from valve's point of view, once they introduced the random drops and realized people would idle (even downloading a 3rd party program to do it) to get them, it's been all about making more money out of idiots that want more funny looking pixels on their characters.

is tf2 dead? pub surely isn't and now it's going to get somewhat better, as for comp tf2, most of all, it depends on people ACTUALLY playing the game instead of just whining and having that whole "cba" attitude (hi finns), if people don't make an effort to play it, yea, it will die :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:06:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by catman</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Video interview with general marketing derector of blizard about f2p tf2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYoWpw3SvRE&#38;feature=player_detailpage#t=0s

Also check id software about f2p tf2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BIBuy4mPNI&#38;feature=player_detailpage#t=132s]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:51:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by catman</title>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:47:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:43:04 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koeitje</i>
		<blockquote>Most of these hackers will show up in the lower divisions. So all I can say is get good  :PP</blockquote>gl mixin at 3am then]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:36:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WildEast</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Hildreth</i>
		<blockquote>I don't see why this is a bad thing if you care about competitive TF2 - increases the player base on a game that was slowly losing people. Perhaps comp TF2 can benefit - obviously public TF2 will become more bullshit and hackers can continuously make new accounts and get TF2 but TF2 isn't the first multi player fps to become free to play.

Basically lots of opportunities here to help the game and only a few small negatives which you have to deal with.</blockquote>

So you are saying pubs will be full of hackers while comp not? Explain.

Now valve paved the way for hack creation (larger base of creators since its a free game after all) and testing hacks are harmless since its easy to avoid bans = more quality h4x.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:27:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Most of these hackers will show up in the lower divisions. So all I can say is get good  :PP]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:24:54 +0200</pubDate>
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