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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-13/?recent=267255#post=267255</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[guish lock the fred]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:32:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CrashSite</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-13/?recent=267255#post=267254</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Can we lock this thread already. Any further arguments can be done over steam. Although this e-drama is fun and all I would rather present a nicer image of competitive tf2 as the most recently commented thread. 

Remember people, you got a problem, contact admins on IRC and talk to them there.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:22:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Oggy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-13/?recent=267255#post=267250</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from demsii</i>
		<blockquote>[...]



All community? I didn't know I had played with so many people .. All what goes around is a bandwagon story that has been with me since the [FB] days .. And I'm not really a cunt, unless you deserve it by talking shit to me to start with or if you're really a massive retard, I'm sorry.
</blockquote>

I've never played with you but I still know you are a massive retard from TFC like predz said and from your days in FB when you used to join random clan channels and spam shit whilst clans were ingame.

You sir are a retard and 99% of the tf2 scene know it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:07:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Anathema</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-13/?recent=267255#post=267231</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I miss winneh.
He banned people who were actually good :(

EDIT: With cheats that is, all justified bans.
The drama isn't as much fun if the people banned are shitters noboy has ever heard of/cares about.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:07:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Stranger</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-13/?recent=267255#post=267192</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kinyu</i>
		<blockquote>Actually readed all of this. Greatest e-drama in fkin long time.</blockquote>
this]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:08:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267185</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ETF2L is the best community site I have ever been apart of. With a full and enthusiastic staff, honest community and excellent policy's.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:38:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267184</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from minimoose</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

who hasn't?</blockquote>

Cheers minimoose I wanted to say that but I was scared of a forum ban seeing as I've already pushed this thread slightly too far.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:35:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by exzntrc</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267179</link>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:11:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Alesline</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267175</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sunbather</i>
		<blockquote>you know its kinda strange alesline didnt just say. hi i actually did play</blockquote>

Yes I know It's too late to talk about this but I want to say that after that exzntrc incident, etf2l means nothing to me. I'm not going to write a wall of text to unban myself. My friends already written everything needed to be written.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:57:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by deception</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267157</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Gubbins</i>
		<blockquote>So you'd rather we rushed and banned everyone before confirming that we were actually right?</blockquote>

Well considering your reply makes me believe you didn't understand my point. Reading twice usually helps. I wasn't suggesting you rush and ban everyone without confirmation. I was saying that in this specific matter, comparing IPs and finding a match is not that hard and shouldn't take weeks.

On the other hand your reply reminds me a funny story where you actually rushed and banned (R&#38;B'ed, cool) someone without any confirmation or proof.

http://etf2l.org/2009/04/11/silence-before-the-storm-cheaters-galore/

"One day Winneh &#38; his friends decide to play against Exzntrc &#38; friends (including Alesline) and Winneh decides Exzntrc is cheating so the next day he is banned. The funny facts are: It is cN's server and nobody asks any STV or POV demo. Exzntrc isn't even registered on ETF2L "

Good old times.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:48:21 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Minimoose</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Enef</i>
		<blockquote>He threatened to stab Demsii.</blockquote>

who hasn't?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:45:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WARHURYEAH</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267155</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Y'all did it wtb BeaVerN.


yahooooiiiiiiiiiidooiiiiiiiiiiii

/flame]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:38:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gubbins</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267150</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[@Enef+dg:

So you'd rather we rushed and banned everyone before confirming that we were actually right?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Enef</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267139</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This is a little bit of a selfish note but to add to what dg said, if they had the evidence earlier then its unfair to everyone else in the same division.

Cosa Nostra currently sit top of their division..with 2 players on their roster due to everyone being banned.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:05:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by deception</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15278/page-12/?recent=267255#post=267137</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hey, as a member of this pretty banned group, I'd like to say couple of things on this subject. To be honest, I have nothing to add to Forza's argument about the internet and ip stuff since he has already made a decent argument and I couldn't agree more but I want to approach it from a different angle and ask why we didn't get banned right after the so called evidence has been found. By the way I assume questions like "who is right and wrong", "are the admins gonna change their decisions" and vs are irrelevant with my point. 

"The girl hears the rumour and tells it to her internet boyfriend or whatever and the boy goes to the AC team. AC team investigate and find evidence which shouldn't be that hard and ban the people who are responsible." It seems quite easy, but instead AC team waited for weeks to ban us. If that's a policy -waiting until the end of season to ban people- in ETF2L, I believe it should change. My schedule is really tight and I find very little time to play TF2. So I wouldn't have bothered to play the second half of the season if I had knew I would be banned. Like Forza said, it was a waste of time.

Anyway, it was a small criticism on this policy. Nothing to be bothered about. 

ps. Girls always make things complicated.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:54:15 +0100</pubDate>
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