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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-10/?recent=274236#post=274236</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

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roads &#62; houses

???</blockquote>

Well, that a very interesting point you raise there. I mean the large scale housing we heave become acustom to could not exist without roads and the ability to move the vast amounts of materials efficiently enough just wouldnt exist. But if we were to just take roads over housing life would be almost impossible. Therefore to say roads &#62; houses is a bit of cajuffle as we really can't have one without the other, no houses no people alive to use roads however without roads we wouldn't have the amount of housing to substantially sustain life as we know it, however I imagine we could easily support a much lower human population as humans have managed in the past. However a modern population model could just no cope without roads or means of transport.

EDIT

That is why I, Swarlz have come to the conclusion we need IRC and MM both at the same time, because I like to live in MM but when it came to getting around and moving in recourses for MM I just couldn't do without IRC]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:24:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-10/?recent=274236#post=274231</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from randa</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

IRC &#62; tf2mm</blockquote>

= 

roads &#62; houses

???]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:18:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-10/?recent=274236#post=274225</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nigh</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

who the hell still uses firefox 3 ?</blockquote>
me so stfu ;) :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:03:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nightbox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-10/?recent=274236#post=274216</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from herpderp</i>
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Not to mention it can run in the background without consuming alot of resources, Firefox on the other hand.</blockquote>

who the hell still uses firefox 3 ?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:39:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Eledorian</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Swarlz</i>
		<blockquote>I enjoy irc, it finds me tf2 gaymes</blockquote>

Not to mention it can run in the background without consuming alot of resources, Firefox on the other hand.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:31:53 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274213</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I enjoy irc, it finds me tf2 gaymes]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:29:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274198</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[irc is still the best.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:43:56 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by randa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274197</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Not really. Just because something is new, doesn't mean it's an improvement over what it's replacing. Also the HTTP protocol itself might be old, but it's so flexible there is genuinely no need for any changes.

[...]

OpenGL is actually lagging behind an awful lot compared to DirectX. The new spec for OpenGL 3 (which is neither finished nor tested) is only really just catching up to DX9 and a small subset of what DX10 has.</blockquote>

If you look correctly i was reffering to tf2mm and irc not flash and opengl :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:42:57 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nightbox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274193</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the idea was to compare 2 different things (not a comparasion between opengl and dx), we saw that tf2lobby worked a bit and then sucked]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:34:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274189</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nigh</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

it's like saying flash &#62; opengl</blockquote>

Not really. Just because something is new, doesn't mean it's an improvement over what it's replacing. Also the HTTP protocol itself might be old, but it's so flexible there is genuinely no need for any changes.

<i>Quoted from randa</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Its like saying something thats buggy and isnt finished is better than something thats tried and tested- SHAZING!</blockquote>

OpenGL is actually lagging behind an awful lot compared to DirectX. The new spec for OpenGL 3 (which is neither finished nor tested) is only really just catching up to DX9 and a small subset of what DX10 has.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:20:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nightbox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274188</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from randa</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Its like saying something thats buggy and isnt finished is better than something thats tried and tested- SHAZING!</blockquote>

tf2mm is not bugged and it's core functions are 99% done, only the "amazing" features needs implementation now.

If you want a starting point: right now it's like tf2lobby (as functions) + friends list + mumble support + best server finder]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:19:46 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by randa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274187</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nigh</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

it's like saying flash &#62; opengl</blockquote>

Its like saying something thats buggy and isnt finished is better than something thats tried and tested- SHAZING!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:17:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nightbox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274185</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from randa</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

IRC &#62; tf2mm</blockquote>

it's like saying flash &#62; opengl]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:12:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by randa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274184</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nigh</i>
		<blockquote>I had a talk with WAR yesterday. I've said a lot of times, TF2MM will be able to provide country specific games (UK only + division filters too).

Let's not worship IRC, it's even older than http itself, and was not created to play games.</blockquote>

IRC &#62; tf2mm]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:09:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nightbox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15256/page-9/?recent=274236#post=274172</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I had a talk with WAR yesterday. I've said a lot of times, TF2MM will be able to provide country specific games (UK only + division filters too).

Let's not worship IRC, it's even older than http itself, and was not created to play games.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:38:35 +0100</pubDate>
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