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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-2/?recent=262861#post=262861</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Biohazard</i>
		<blockquote>y E tf2l should try bad pinged na servers? fuck that. its like watching fb vs that crappy us team all over</blockquote>

That crappy US team won the ESEA LAN. 

I want to see you doing that since you are taking the right of calling others crap.

To be honest, I play from Toronto and I think there's really not much of a difference if you play on a UK server than playing on a Dallas/West Coast server. It's just a slight difference, and it only affects soldier. Demoman, scout and sniper are easy, specially that as sniper you can shoot near a guys head and still get the frag.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:48:44 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kona</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-2/?recent=262861#post=262735</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Dummy</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
'or the likes'
pugna</blockquote>
So why did you mention MGE in the first place?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:50:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jacko99</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-2/?recent=262861#post=262732</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[gl :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:30:09 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by stwn</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-2/?recent=262861#post=262730</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Jaskey</i>
		<blockquote>Well, EU and USA have different play styles, so if you practice in a US mix then play serious with an EU team then you'll just take no notice of the mix and play the "proper" way without really learning anything, Imo if you want to improve your gamesense then just play as often as possible and find a team, Best way to go. Dont need NA to do that...</blockquote>
could go both ways, learn more from them and adapt it to eu style to surprise oppnent
and of course true about the team thing but its hard to play with a team at 3 am or stuff
ill continue and see anyhow, spend some time there when theres noone online here and see if i get any brains (doubt it)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:27:08 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jacko99</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-2/?recent=262861#post=262729</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Plus TF2 is a first person "shooter"aim is important, so going round trying to improve gamesense with crap aim, is just as bad as beasting the dm, but failing at the positioning.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:25:11 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jacko99</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-2/?recent=262861#post=262728</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well, EU and USA have different play styles, so if you practice in a US mix then play serious with an EU team then you'll just take no notice of the mix and play the "proper" way without really learning anything, Imo if you want to improve your gamesense then just play as often as possible and find a team, Best way to go. Dont need NA to do that...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:21:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by stwn</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Jaskey</i>
		<blockquote>I dont really think it will increase gamesense, how can it? All it would do is cause you to think about your projectile shots, rage if you miss and claim that it should of hit, Whats the point? Playing with high ping is only useful if you can deal with the latency.</blockquote>
if you treat it like a serious game yes, if you treat it like practice then you'll think of ways to make up for a lack of aim in a situation, makes one less aim dependant]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:16:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by stwn</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kim</i>
		<blockquote>and MGE improves ones gamesense how?</blockquote>
'or the likes'
pugna]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:14:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jacko99</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I dont really think it will increase gamesense, how can it? All it would do is cause you to think about your projectile shots, rage if you miss and claim that it should of hit, Whats the point? Playing with high ping is only useful if you can deal with the latency.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:12:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fant0m3n</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-1/?recent=262861#post=262721</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Dummy</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
... like SERIOUSLY? I said it improves your gamesense
not aim
:[</blockquote>

Oh well, but if you play on the american server with the higher ping to get better gamescense, wont your gamescense and aim adjust to the high ping instead of the normal one. So you just need to adjust your gamescense to the Eu server again, because its still not the same.
But I shall try it sometime and se if Im right OR wrong.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:11:20 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kona</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-1/?recent=262861#post=262720</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[and MGE improves ones gamesense how?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:09:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by stwn</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-1/?recent=262861#post=262719</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from KrullkrigareN^</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Urhm.. Not really, then its just better to go on a europe dm/mge server and play and just not adjust in warmup. I dont really see the point, you dont get better aim to play with high ping tbh.</blockquote>
i sed gamesense not aim
it improves your gamesense
if you can adjust your aim i.e dont need warmup]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:08:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fant0m3n</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Dummy</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
im not sure where i said get used to
or whatever like that
i worded it the wrong way, on high ping you have to depend on brains more than aim (atleast for soldier/demo) so in terms of gamesense if you can adjust your aim quickly to EU pings in warmup then there's no loss and only gain</blockquote>

Urhm.. Not really, then its just better to go on a europe dm/mge server and play and just not adjust in warmup. I dont really see the point, you dont get better aim to play with high ping tbh.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:05:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jacko99</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-1/?recent=262861#post=262717</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[All about ping, If you cant play with more than 20 ping dont bother, If you dont care having abit of lag go for it, We played a few late night mixes the other day and that was easilly playable, as all classes to]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:04:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by stwn</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-15088/page-1/?recent=262861#post=262716</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from KrullkrigareN^</i>
		<blockquote>Lol. Thats quite fucking stupid, why would you get used to play on US servers with shit ping if your from europe. That will only mess everything up when your gonna play pcw/officals later.</blockquote>
im not sure where i said get used to
or whatever like that
i worded it the wrong way, on high ping you have to depend on brains more than aim (atleast for soldier/demo) so in terms of gamesense if you can adjust your aim quickly to EU pings in warmup then there's no loss and only gain]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:03:35 +0100</pubDate>
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