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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;metamod/sourcemod&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by klansm3n</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231362</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[edit: nvm. I suck at reading apparently]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:45:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rotab</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231277</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from vlad_drac</i>
		<blockquote>ooooo, i see...

and is this a really bad idea for a comp player? :P</blockquote>

You wont be able to connect to VAC secured servers. Use srcds like a pro!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:05:33 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by vlad_drac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231216</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ooooo, i see...

and is this a really bad idea for a comp player? :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:58:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Pappe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231176</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[you have to lauch the game with "-insecure" command line option ;)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:06:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231172</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Technically you wouldn't call that a client, you'd call that a listen server. But yes, it will be blocked via that method too.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:58:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gent</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from vlad_drac</i>
		<blockquote>
What i'm just trying to do is make it work via a game i create - no dedicated server or whatever, just go in tf and make my own game to play in.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:55:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ghent</i>
		<blockquote>Didn't valve block loading sourcemod on a client?</blockquote>

where did anyone say anything about loading it on a client?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:51:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231158</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Didn't valve block loading sourcemod on a client?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:26:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by vlad_drac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231156</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Rotab</i>
		<blockquote>http://wiki.alliedmods.net/Installing_SourceMod</blockquote>

This is one of the guides that i followed to no avail, hence needing some further input from someone who has already set one up and is familiar with it.  Don't let your haste to be sarcastic get in the way of a good sarcastic answer - less haste, less fail!

What i'm just trying to do is make it work via a game i create - no dedicated server or whatever, just go in tf and make my own game to play in.  After following that guide (and another couple), i end up not even knowing if metamod/sourcemod have loaded correctly.  I try a few commands and they are unrecognised, so i guess that means no.  But i did follow the steps!

So i sort of need someone who knows what they're doing that can go "have you done this?  yes/no.  have you done this?  yes/no" until the damn thing works.  Either that or a really good guide (the one linked isn't very good in that it didn't work when i followed it) that i can follow!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:19:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rotab</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231127</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://wiki.alliedmods.net/Installing_SourceMod]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:31:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dotfloat</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231076</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Do you need to just set up metamod + sourcemod on a dedi?
Or install a specific mod?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:02:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Created by vlad_drac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-13621/page-1/?recent=231362#post=231069</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Is anyone very familiar with these things such that they could help me setting it up to ....well, work?  A few guides have led me to dead ends, i want to do a bit of tf2 surfing on LAN, need this to set it up :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:49:25 +0200</pubDate>
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