ETF2L – Latest activity in “ESEA Invite Finals” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/ Reply by Leonard McCoy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199801 Quoted from alfa
On the other side -> http://eseamarket.com/index.php?s=lessons&d=instructor&game=43&type=group
I don't like yank tf2 much but in their defense that link is extremely old. I'm pretty sure they registered here so you can get mentored for free. Good joke though :D http://commforums.com/mentor-information-f95.html]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199801 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:06:14 +0200 Reply by Koeitje https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199794 Quoted from alfa
On the other side -> http://eseamarket.com/index.php?s=lessons&d=instructor&game=43&type=group
Wow, hahahaha.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199794 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:51:08 +0200 Reply by The7alfa https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199789 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199789 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:26:09 +0200 Reply by Vint4ge14 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199732 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199732 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:05:53 +0200 Reply by CRZ- https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199731 Quoted from SnowiE
[...] [...] [...] [...] [...] Those words and many more on this forum. Everyone who played for Illegal has division 1 experience (except maybe Ziit?). Complexity played with high pings and a substitute demoman. I'm looking forward to the next big game.
Only comment you could argue with is Hildreth's comment, and you answered it yourself. coL played with substitute demoman. Every other comment is still true that NA tf2 is horseshit to watch.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199731 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:57:18 +0200 Reply by Shintaz https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199690 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199690 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:09:11 +0200 Reply by SnowiE https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199689 Quoted from Ghent
That was painful to watch.
Quoted from Vazzan
I really found that more funny than entertaining, I really don't get US TF2
Quoted from randa
Ergh NA tf2 is fucking horseshit to watch.
Quoted from Skyride
[...] Its a different game bassically. So the people who are dead-sure that our playstyle is the best find it frustrating as half the shit they do is utterly retarded from that perspective. p.s. it probably is, but we'll see at i40.
Quoted from Hildreth
Main comment from speccing this is a top Us demo like Solid Snake wouldn't make the top 5 in EU. And charge and targe - pure entertainment value :D
Those words and many more on this forum. Everyone who played for Illegal has division 1 experience (except maybe Ziit?). Complexity played with high pings and a substitute demoman. I'm looking forward to the next big game.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199689 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:07:08 +0200 Reply by Thalien https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199686 Quoted from SnowiE
So... a lot of people in this thread need to eat their words after complexity versus illegal's result tonight.
About what? The top US side beating a div 2 team? Brilliant. Not even being sarcastic in the slightest. And yes there was the ping issue which ofcourse makes it horrible for the Americans, mainly the soldiers, but still, it wasn't exactly the top teams from either continent, no offense to Illegal but you guys aren't the best in Europe. So what words exactly are people meant to eat?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199686 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:46:00 +0200 Reply by SnowiE https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-4/?recent=199801#post=199685 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=199685 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:39:18 +0200 Reply by l l l https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-3/?recent=199801#post=198876 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=198876 Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:38:05 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-3/?recent=199801#post=198828 Quoted from reactioN
[...] 60hz sucks pretty much play one time more then 60hz then go back to 60 hz feels like 30 fps
placebo much. :) Unless someone really struggles with playing @ 60 fps instead of 120.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=198828 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:45:32 +0200 Reply by reactioN https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-3/?recent=199801#post=198811 Quoted from franco
[...] 60hz is fine what the hell are you talking about? sure 125hz is a lot better but you are seriously over exaggerating.
60hz sucks pretty much play one time more then 60hz then go back to 60 hz feels like 30 fps]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=198811 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:11:21 +0200 Reply by RaCio https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-3/?recent=199801#post=198794 Quoted from AcidReniX
^^ That all goes for the top teams at least, it's filtered down a lot further in recent months, and hopefully it will filter down to low div 2 / 3 and the US equivilent in the near future.
From what I have seen lower divs have been running aggressive soldiers for quite some time. Of course some teams rely heavily on their demo however not every team has that luxury and thus you see dominant soldiers quite a lot.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=198794 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:59:30 +0200 Reply by franco https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-3/?recent=199801#post=198793 Quoted from jiggawhat
I read that they had to play on 60 hz monitors, which is absolutely ridiculous. Playing a projectile class is far far worse on 60 hz than 125 hz. Huge dick move by ESEA to make people play TF2 on such crappy machines.
60hz is fine what the hell are you talking about? sure 125hz is a lot better but you are seriously over exaggerating.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=198793 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:56:04 +0200 Reply by kuma1 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10973/page-3/?recent=199801#post=198792 Quoted from AcidReniX
The scenes have got a lot closer recently. Euro soldiers are stepping it up and teams are becoming less dependent on the demoman. US demomen are getting better and their medics are realising they can tag up with them. ^^ That all goes for the top teams at least, it's filtered down a lot further in recent months, and hopefully it will filter down to low div 2 / 3 and the US equivilent in the near future.
Yeah definitely agree with this. Rather than rely on one class all the time, nowadays both the euro and NA top teams just go with whatever class goes best in any particular situation; be it soldier, demo or scout. Previously in the NA scene, the mvps for most of the top teams were soldiers (reptile for eg, seagull for blight, yaug for xen etc) save for coL who had scouts as their best players. Now you can look at a team like fanom where anyone can arguably be their mvp and are similar in skill (ww, tlr, Ruwin, Orzo all beasts). Take a team like eMg, previously they mainly depended on mackey rjing onto the opposing medic while tyrone held the fort. In this season, yz50 has been doing the carrying while the rest of the team failed. Soldiers have been far less dominant in the NA scene despite how well harbleu and mesr did coming straight from open, and I'm sure Fragga will have something to say about that so I'll stop.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10973&post=198792 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:38:19 +0200