ETF2L – Latest activity in “Practice Individually” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/ Reply by sEagle https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-3/?recent=195824#post=195824 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195824 Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:03:17 +0200 Reply by sEagle https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-3/?recent=195824#post=195821 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195821 Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:54:06 +0200 Reply by kuma1 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-3/?recent=195824#post=195117 Things you can do solo Practicing aim should be no more than getting comfortable with your setup, it is not something you can improve by playing DM 24/7. I actually find this makes your aim worse. Just get used to moving your mouse at a set sensitivity which you are comfortable tracking a stationary object with, this is usually related to your in-game movement speed (when strafing). Aim should be unconscious, you should not need to concentrate on your crosshair the entire time as this takes the focus away from your gamesense. You will miss important cues happening around you if you are overly committed on your aim. I find I aim best when I relax and don't overthink my crosshair position, just let it come naturally. Watch your own demos and identify what you could have done better. Lobbies are actually not bad as it forces you to carry your team. Without comms, you can concentrate on improving your gamesense from just peripheral/background information. This is hugely important especially as a scout, if you can identify what to do without any info from your teammates, this will only get better with comms. Add me on Steam and I'm happy to help you out with questions etc. I'm not the best TF2 player but I have managed to get to div 3 level in less than 100 days.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195117 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:16:54 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195111 Quoted from compton
If aiming truly is the only thing you want to train then there's no reason to join a DM server at all. Just pick two points on a map and move your target between those. After getting your muscle memory on the points, pick another two.
Besides what Jims pointed out, this is also amazingly boring.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195111 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:46:17 +0200 Reply by Jims https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195038 Quoted from compton
If aiming truly is the only thing you want to train then there's no reason to join a DM server at all. Just pick two points on a map and move your target between those. After getting your muscle memory on the points, pick another two.
Yes that is pure aim, and that can work, but its also very unsituational, which is why the jist is you use a DM server, to allow you to have to aim in different situations as well as a few other things, but I understand what you're saying, I just believe I've worded some of my responces (probably including this one) a bit wrong resulting in a sort of confusion, I'll touch on complete muscle memory when I make a thread as there is a few things I want to say on it versus conventional deathmatching.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195038 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:21:10 +0200 Reply by str8outtaCompton https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195032 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195032 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:12:52 +0200 Reply by kaidus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195019 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195019 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:43:12 +0200 Reply by Jims https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195018 Quoted from compton
[...] TF2 has 'em, but sound is way better because it gives you more information; distance and the weapon used.
Yes but imo the general direction is enough if you're trying to get better aim, you don't want to know where someone is exacly for the sake of aim practice or you prejudge how far you you're going to move your mouse before you even do it, defying the point of getting used to muscle memory on seeing a target. Obviously practice with sound has its place but a random TDM server when you're only trying to improve your aim isn't it, and in my current post thats all I've covered, I'm not saying you should never use sound or never practice with it what I am saying is what I've covered in my post (which is generaly what I assume you're reacting to, that and the comments related to it) doesn't relate to getting used to sound and judging things, thats a different matter.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195018 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:41:43 +0200 Reply by str8outtaCompton https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195017 Quoted from Jims
[...] Most of this post was based on my knowledge from css, which FYI has damage indicators on screen which you kind on uncoinciously (lolspelling) react to, and I assume TF2 has them aswell.
TF2 has 'em, but sound is way better because it gives you more information; distance and the weapon used. And TF2 also has projectiles, that you'll hear way before they will damage you. I find the visual indicator quite useless when I'm playing with sound.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195017 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:39:03 +0200 Reply by Jims https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195014 Quoted from Koeitje
Turning sounds off on a dm server doesn't help with your aim. When being hit from behind you can hear where they are hitting you from, learn to 180 quickly and reflex shot on the spot you think the fire was coming from.
Most of this post was based on my knowledge from css, which FYI has damage indicators on screen which you kind on uncoinciously (lolspelling) react to, and I assume TF2 has them aswell.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195014 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:35:36 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195005 Quoted from Koeitje
Turning sounds off on a dm server doesn't help with your aim. When being hit from behind you can hear where they are hitting you from, learn to 180 quickly and reflex shot on the spot you think the fire was coming from.
As for me, all different kinds of sounds are just distracting sometimes. Turning volume down helped a lot.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195005 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:08:30 +0200 Reply by m00n https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195001 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195001 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:52:24 +0200 Reply by Cloud https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=195000 Quoted from Koeitje
Turning sounds off on a dm server doesn't help with your aim. When being hit from behind you can hear where they are hitting you from, learn to 180 quickly and reflex shot on the spot you think the fire was coming from.
Shows how much you rely on sound, there are the damage indicators remember? :P]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=195000 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:37:42 +0200 Reply by Koeitje https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=194999 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=194999 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:34:00 +0200 Reply by Jims https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-10832/page-2/?recent=195824#post=194992 Quoted from Atty
Jim, that is the best post ever since this forum was created. Make a thread and ask an admin to sticky it.
Why thank you :) If I'm going to go that route I'll probably rewrite a few parts to be more correct and add a bit more in such as musclememory maps if they work as a direct cross over from css to TF2 and just go into a bit more detail, I feel I could add at least a little more, just need to find the time. (edit: hopefully expect a the first bits of a thread tomorow or later tonight, though I'm currently at holiday in my grandparents house so I can't promise anything as I don't have times planned, READBELOW _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ would people prefer it if I made it all in a word doc and sorted it all out, then posted everything at once or if I posted a thread with a better written version of what I wrote here and built on it?) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *below is a little paragraph as I feel I'm getting more credit than I deserve currently :)* Also I'm not going to take credit for working all this out myself, because people obviously learn stuff overtime from other places and various things other people say, I just sort of compiled a little bit of what I know into a post, don't think I just sat there one day and thought of all this myself its just stuff I learnt overtime as I was a pritty hardcore CSS player and only recently switched to TF2]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=general&topic=10832&post=194992 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:10:11 +0200