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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Steam groups for divisions&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kasuno</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-2/?recent=110761#post=110761</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I did that before that post, for div 5C in this season 

http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791430661869

anyway, people still add me to steam so lol]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:39:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-2/?recent=110761#post=110744</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>div1 use irc cos we're not special :]</blockquote>

div1 use IRC because they are mostly old school gamers from before the time of this fancy steam thing. (not that im included in that group but ive been using IRC for longer than ive been gaming).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:54:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Pledge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-2/?recent=110761#post=110682</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[My team's division, 4A, actually has a Steam Group.

Good way of finding opponents who are never at irc. Recommended.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:42:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by carbon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-2/?recent=110761#post=110671</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/div6

Gotta love Div6 doing what the others don't. :P</blockquote>

I was told that at some point div3 had a similar group. The problem was that it fell apart when new season started as no-one cared to purge all the users who had moved to another division.

That's why I'm asking for league maintained groups that are cleaned between seasons.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:10:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SEB</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110669</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[div1 use irc cos we're not special :]]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:06:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Severyo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110666</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://steamcommunity.com/groups/div6

Gotta love Div6 doing what the others don't. :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:01:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Grem</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110624</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[+1 on the steam groups. 
Dunno how hard it is in Div 1/2, but div 3 and lower, it's a pain in the hole. I've been war arranging for 3 seasons now, and sometimes, it's just plain impossible to get hold of your opponents. You add em on Steam...wait 2 days...no reply...idle on IRC...pm all the ops in the channel...no reply...4 hours before the default date/time the CL finally gets back to you saying they can't play. Steam groups keeps your Friends list organized too and helps with organizing PCWs with clans around your skill level.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:38:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by str8outtaCompton</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110589</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>
There should be a small penalty for repeatingly leaving matches unscheduled when your opponent has tried to contact you. Cases where both teams are idling should be handled differently than cases where only the other team is showing no interest.</blockquote>

thats what a default date is for, but agreed its annoying</blockquote>

Yeah, that system allows a team that has-all-the-time-in-the-world-but-just-don't-care to grief teams that care about scheduling but can't play at any given default time.

And it also delays matches.

But I guess this has been discussed before, so I won't continue :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:58:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by -Flush-</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110587</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
There should be a small penalty for repeatingly leaving matches unscheduled when your opponent has tried to contact you. Cases where both teams are idling should be handled differently than cases where only the other team is showing no interest.</blockquote>

thats what a default date is for, but agreed its annoying]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:55:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110586</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[l2irc]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:54:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FADe4</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110585</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[set of bastards!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:53:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by str8outtaCompton</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110584</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Yup, from what I've heard from my clan leaders in all the clans I've been in, contacting opponents in div3 and below is sometimes really a pain in the ass. Steam group is a good idea, because everyone has a Steam account.

Although, the comment system in the match detail page should be enough. Some leaders just are too busy / careless to check the match page. So if your opponent doesn't answer, just get the default win :]

There should be a small penalty for repeatingly leaving matches unscheduled when your opponent has tried to contact you. Cases where both teams are idling should be handled differently than cases where only the other team is showing no interest.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:45:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MajorPimpsa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110580</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Wireplay's div-group system really helps war arrangers job. If you think that contacting your opponent is usually easy, then youre not that guy who schedules your matches :D Or youre playing in div 1-2.

Give it a thought at least.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:26:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by carbon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110578</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't really understand how having a steam group would make it any easier. Could you explain please?</blockquote>

At the beginning of the season admins create groups for every division and invite all the leaders to join. Now every clan would have a direct channel to speak to their opponents by accepting just one (1) invite - without the hassle of adding anyone manually.

Of course this wouldn't help with people not replying but it certainly would make the process more enjoyable. If you have participated in wptf2l you'll know how well their system works.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:21:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SfnX</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-7140/page-1/?recent=110761#post=110573</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[whats wrong with just adding them to steam friends...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:56:59 +0200</pubDate>
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