<?xml version="1.0" ?><rss version="2.0">
    <channel>
	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Highlander Season 12 Preseason Cup: Feedback&#8221;</title>
	<link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/</link>
	<description><![CDATA[The latest posts to this topic.]]></description>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Brigadier Alistair-Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-6/?recent=561971#post=561971</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from scrambled</i>
		<blockquote>why dont we just unlock everything and whenever anyone complains we just tell them to get good</blockquote>

yes i agree]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561971</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:54:13 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Scrambled Ammo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-6/?recent=561971#post=561969</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[why dont we just unlock everything and whenever anyone complains we just tell them to get good]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561969</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:48:42 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by uubers</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-6/?recent=561971#post=561968</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from extrasolar</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Actually to counter darwins you just have your own sniper run darwins and then you are equal. simple as that

</blockquote>
this is correct]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561968</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:41:57 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Scrambled Ammo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561965</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from uubers</i>
		<blockquote>Actually to counter vita saw you just have your own medic run vitasaw and then you are equal. simple as that</blockquote>
<i>Quoted from extrasolar</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
We should be expanding the whitelist so that the entire metagame is dictated by how one unlock counters another. If you don't agree with me then you're cis white male scum and you need to check your unlock privilege.</blockquote>]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561965</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:27:33 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Brigadier Alistair-Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561963</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from uubers</i>
		<blockquote>Actually to counter vita saw you just have your own medic run vitasaw and then you are equal. simple as that</blockquote>

Actually to counter darwins you just have your own sniper run darwins and then you are equal. simple as that

js uubers ily but just because both teams can have someone running a degenerate unlock that doesn't mean said unlock is healthy for the game 

And if we're so concerned with variety then why allow unlocks that force your opposite number to run them if you do the same]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561963</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:12:01 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by uubers</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561944</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Actually to counter vita saw you just have your own medic run vitasaw and then you are equal. simple as that]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561944</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 10:42:09 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Brigadier Alistair-Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561935</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from scrambled</i>
		<blockquote>can we allow the vita saw because the hitman's heatmaker and direct hit counters it</blockquote>

I second this notion since the Dead Ringer is clearly a balanced unlock as Jarate and Mad Milk exist in this game

We should be expanding the whitelist so that the entire metagame is dictated by how one unlock counters another. If you don't agree with me then you're cis white male scum and you need to check your unlock privilege.]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561935</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 01:48:58 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Scrambled Ammo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561934</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[can we allow the vita saw because the hitman's heatmaker and direct hit counters it]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561934</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 01:43:56 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by schabdaniel</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561918</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I hope nobody wastes their time trying to read this when deciding the whitelists xD

Nice job making another feedback thread redundant with back and forth bickering and going off on tangents]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561918</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:06:37 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Bulow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561909</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Surely saying spy of the season winner Thalash is the most successful player goes to show how silly that metric is - not that he's bad, but because of the bit part nature of his SNSD days.  Emilio is the true greatest HL player because he has the biggest brain.

With extra but shorter seasons why not rotate bans more? Would be more interesting if the whitelist changed a little and we saw different strategies over different seasons.  The worst that happens is that you play 5 games without funlocks like DR and razorback and cry that pick classes don't win you the game.  And I say this as someone who was carried by a spy who used DR most of the time for two years.]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561909</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:59:11 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Fuxx</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561908</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think I got cancer]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561908</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:25:14 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Nightmare7</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561907</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from scrambled</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
please stop, you're a lost cause</blockquote>

https://youtu.be/BDpS28vIpsA?t=6m35s]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561907</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 20:24:49 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Scrambled Ammo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561906</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nightmare</i>
		<blockquote>somehow, missing the point again</blockquote>
please stop, you're a lost cause]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561906</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 20:21:11 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Nightmare7</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561905</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from scrambled</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
https://webmshare.com/play/4ewP4

"I genuinely cant tell if nightmares memeing
or hes just this retarded"

[...]
The tomislav trades off close range damage for long range damage. Players can also get in close to him and use movement to their advantage. Also, the tomislav doesn't particularly detract from the experience of playing against a heavy in the first place, which is the reason that I asked this question about dead ringer to begin with. It's like you are completely missing my point.</blockquote>

The dead ringer almost has the same downsides. It trades off the ability to decloak at close range and go for specific picks due to the very loud decloak noise, compared to the IW or CnD almost silent noise. Players can also get close to a DR spy and catch him off guard, hit with him a pipe or a rocket so he can't survive the followup shot. DR also gives away your positition a lot easier considering you're not always invisible or lurking behind corners unlike with the IW and CnD. DR also has a mental upside, it makes people more paranoid and some even tilt because they absolutely hate it. x)]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561905</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 20:15:43 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    	<item>
    	    <title>Reply by Scrambled Ammo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-33855/page-5/?recent=561971#post=561904</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nightmare</i>
		<blockquote>why would you want to enhance gameplay for the enemy when your goal is to make your own team win.</blockquote>
https://webmshare.com/play/4ewP4

"I genuinely cant tell if nightmares memeing
or hes just this retarded"

<i>Quoted from Nightmare</i>
		<blockquote>
Counter question: How does the tomislav enhances gameplay for classes that aren't heavy?</blockquote>
The tomislav trades off close range damage for long range damage. Players can also get in close to him and use movement to their advantage. Also, the tomislav doesn't particularly detract from the experience of playing against a heavy in the first place, which is the reason that I asked this question about dead ringer to begin with. It's like you are completely missing my point.]]></description>
    	    <guid isPermaLink="false">generator=rsdiscuss&#038;baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&#038;feed=forum&#038;forum=feedback&#038;topic=33855&#038;post=561904</guid>
    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 19:54:27 +0100</pubDate>
    	</item>
    </channel>
</rss>