ETF2L – Latest activity in “Lack of event promotions” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/ Reply by SilverAura https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-2/?recent=547287#post=547287 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547287 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 18:22:23 +0100 Reply by Sideshow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-2/?recent=547287#post=547281 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547281 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 14:54:28 +0100 Reply by Toodles https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-2/?recent=547287#post=547271 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547271 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 01:20:51 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-2/?recent=547287#post=547268 Quoted from Scissors
[...] Why don't you like this particular one staying there for a while? ;-)
I don't mind, easier to get on my teampage when we're always frontpage news 8)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547268 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 22:33:12 +0100 Reply by kKaltUu https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-2/?recent=547287#post=547266 Quoted from Sideshow
That's really disheartening, hearing "ETF2L gets nothing for promoting razer stuff". ETF2L gets nothing from ANYTHING except making tf2 bigger. If you actively make competitive tf2 bigger, etf2l directly benefits. And so the question is, does promoting a sponsor who is putting vast amounts (in tf2 terms) of money into the scene and a cool new system help competitive tf2 and therefore help etf2l? YE ofc it does! Taking such a selfish approach and only promoting stuff that you run, or stuff that directly helps you, is one of the reasons why ETF2L is not helping tf2 grow, and is not growing large amounts itself.
It saddens me to read such a reaction from a former admin. You know the inner workings of the league and our player base, and yet you quote me out of context without addressing the rest of the post. Calling me or the league selfish whilst pouring money and lots of time in keeping this afloat hurts me to say the least. For a lot of us this is close to a second job in terms of effort. Do I want to make competitive TF2 bigger? of course, otherwise I wouldn't be doing this. Dragging along a dead community isn't pleasant and I've seen it happen in several other games. That's why after 9 years I'm happy TF2 is still alive and kicking. Luckily for TF2 we have several outlets and new events keep popping up. If it's not the small admin team of ETF2L hosting cups and seasons, it's something set up by a single person or a company like Razer tapping into a new way to promote itself. I really hope the point of promoting a direct competitor of the organisation that allowed us to put up a prize pool for the past few years sounds like a conflicting idea in your ears as well. Nobody here says we don't do it, in fact if you look at the post history we've promoted a lot of non-ETF2L events after being contacted by their representatives. Please read my previous post for a bit of a clarification on that part. The next few weeks will be a host of some big and smaller changes on the organisational front and as people know, this is still a non-profit organisation. If people think they can contribute to the community or to the league in a positive manner I'd kindly request them to step up and apply or create something that is in their field of passion! As for the news post, I'm sure sonny or whoever is writing the article has his reason to be a bit late. I created the saloon yesterday http://saloon.tf/match/21 and I see the TFTV article has been posted just now.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547266 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 22:14:31 +0100 Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547265 Quoted from Hildreth
The Grand Final one should have been bumped up yesterday but in general, they're good.
Why don't you like this particular one staying there for a while? ;-)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547265 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:59:27 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547261 Quoted from aura
Speaking of promotion how about admins put a big fucking sign that says smth like: "ETF2l Grand Finals, Tomorrow 19 cet". Because the old announcement post got buried under hl news. This should have been done at least a week before, but whatever its too late to discuss that anyway.
Actually ETF2L do a good job of bumping the main article up to the top...most of the time. The Grand Final one should have been bumped up yesterday but in general, they're good.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547261 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:07:51 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547260 Quoted from Sonny Black
There is a reason we did not promote the Razer cups, if you look on the upper right side of the ETF2L page you may understand why.
Is this a clause in ETF2L's sponsorship contract? Also I feel like if people want ETF2L to promote something, they should write a promotion article, upload it to OneDrive them approach an admin to post it on their behalf, they're far more likely to get this to happen if you take away 90% of the work.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547260 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:06:42 +0100 Reply by SilverAura https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547259 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547259 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 20:45:34 +0100 Reply by Sideshow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547258 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547258 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 20:16:20 +0100 Reply by SiTeHBu0mB https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547005 Quoted from kKaltUu
to be honest, ETF2L gets no incentives for promoting razer cups.
Maybe so, yet alternatively I always see/hear comments about getting the comp community exposed to the pubbers and trying to expand. Now I don't know if this is primarily users speaking about it or ETF2L as well, but it seems that something like this might help expand the comp community, which in effect gives more exposure and therefore stimulates growth. Along those lines, there's a sunday cup from Razer today (https://arena.razerzone.com/tournaments/details/657/255Beu255D-game-sense---sunday-practice-cup#details) so if anyone needs a player... :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547005 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:25:12 +0100 Reply by kKaltUu https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547002 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547002 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:36:14 +0100 Reply by derippez https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=547000 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=547000 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:21:50 +0100 Reply by popcorp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=546999 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=546999 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:18:55 +0100 Reply by Netsky https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-32293/page-1/?recent=547287#post=546992 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=32293&post=546992 Sun, 15 Nov 2015 09:09:23 +0100